Supercharge or turbo or lots of ACT bits
Supercharge or turbo or lots of ACT bits
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pies

Original Poster:

13,116 posts

285 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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My 4l might be getting some extra power shortly,but im unsure which is the best way to go

so what benefits does each offer over the others ?

TIA

P.S im not sure supercharging is possible

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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5 Litre?

T/C - Too many pipes/hoses/wires/sensors.
S/C - Did you ever see Lee Knieren's? Took 18mnths to set up properly. His was a 2.9 BTW. Sold now.
ACT - Yep. How about a cam * heads and a big 4 barrel Holley? Hmmmm.

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

282 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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TVR power to a Nitrous kit for about £1500. Takes the power of a 4l upto close that of a 5L

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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jamesuk28 said:
TVR power to a Nitrous kit for about £1500. Takes the power of a 4l upto close that of a 5L


Hmm...close?????? more like more!!!!

shadowninja

79,987 posts

311 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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k77-widow maker said:

jamesuk28 said:
TVR power to a Nitrous kit for about £1500. Takes the power of a 4l upto close that of a 5L



Hmm...close?????? more like more!!!!


for a minute or two.

Pies

Original Poster:

13,116 posts

285 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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Nitros is a non starter,to me thats best for drag races

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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shadowninja said:

k77-widow maker said:


jamesuk28 said:
TVR power to a Nitrous kit for about £1500. Takes the power of a 4l upto close that of a 5L




Hmm...close?????? more like more!!!!



for a minute or two.


fair point, but then new heads, chip, plenum, trumpets & cam have the same effect after the bottle runs out

WildfireS3

9,947 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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ACT CF Plenums, Cam, new heads.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Get a 500. Whoops just realised you have a V8S. Still applicable if you want to do it. Steve Cox has a 500 powered V8S.
Also talk to Pete Humphries first. What he hasn't broken on a V8S etc etc etc.

>> Edited by shpub on Tuesday 27th July 09:55

z_chromozone

1,436 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Hi Pies,

Have you thought about the jag air flow meter route, coupled with a rising rate fuel regulator. A set of ACT short trumpets would be nice, but their carbon fibre plenum is a bit expensive for me.

Personally I am thinking about running a Siamesed plenum with two opposed inlets welded down the centre, routing the plumbing via a jag air flow meter and rising rate fuel regulator, possibly with some short “act style trumpets” to aid air flow. With a Mark Adams chip I would expect to still have change out of £1500 and a pretty trick induction system. I don’t know how much second hand plenums are though.

Of course there is the cam change route, but any thing too radical will require solid lifters and adjustable rockers / roller rockers, so not my favoured approach for the gains you will get / £.

A set of polished / ported heads is also expensive, unless they need to come off anyway. As far as I understand there is little to be gained by increasing air flow in an engine 4L, or below. Not for my money anyway.

I have seen a number of supercharger and turbo installs at drag meets, they looked massively complex, but do give loads more power. From what SH says in his book an extra 100 bhp may be more than the S can take with out spending loads on chassis etc.

I will be interested to see how you get on and how much power you get from your mods.

Z

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Pies,
Supercharging is possible.
www.rpiv8.com/engine-3.htm

WildfireS3

9,947 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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I believe ACT sell second hand components. If you give them a ring they may have somthing.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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DustyC said:
Pies,
Supercharging is possible.
www.rpiv8.com/engine-3.htm


Dusty

Anything is possible.

The real question is how much and how long before it breaks!

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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shpub said:

DustyC said:
Pies,
Supercharging is possible.
<a href="http://www.rpiv8.com/engine-3.htm">www.rpiv8.com/engine-3.htm</a>



Dusty

Anything is possible.

The real question is how much and how long before it breaks!


The overall question is always how much.
(If you have enough who cares how long it lasts. Just buy two and when one breaks get it fixed!)

Personally Id spend more on the handling to start with. After fitting a roll bar.

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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It took you long enough to buy one let alone two!

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Notonly that but if I had two Id have to decide which one to drive each day! I might not ever get out of the garage!

greenv8s

31,013 posts

313 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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shpub said:

The real question is how much and how long before it breaks!


lots and not very long

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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greenv8s said:

shpub said:

The real question is how much and how long before it breaks!



lots and not very long


Holligan

stainless_steve

6,050 posts

287 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Hi Colin,
I looked at the twin turbos, then the supercharger, but in the end i went for the carbon fibre.Mail me if you want more details.


Steve

Boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

289 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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One or 2 turbo's and some work will get you 400 lbs/ft but it may be a squeeze