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FourWheelDrift said:
They will still be in Blackpool. With a British workforce.
But not british owned. For me a major element of the TVR magic is now gone. They we're the last of a species thats now extinct. I'm very sad but that will fade with time and I will no doubt continue to support TVR as there are no others at the moment that come close to equalling their magic...
>> Edited by blackmonday on Wednesday 28th July 11:15
I love the car dearly, but thank christ it is not british anymore, then we might actually get cars that are screwed together properly. The reason we have lost most of our car industry / bike industry etc etc is that the global market will not except the shite we produce, plain and simple.
Don't bang on about keeping it british, if we were any good at manufacturing quality control we would still have a car industry. You don't hear of BMW / Porsche etc being sold out.
Car design we are good at, innovation we are good at, actually building a car that will not fall to bits.... I think not. After spending £6000 on mine since September the joke is wearing a little thin.
And before I get the predictable response of if you don't like it sell it......... who the hell wants to buy a poor quality british sports car?
>> Edited by jamesuk28 on Tuesday 27th July 23:13
Don't bang on about keeping it british, if we were any good at manufacturing quality control we would still have a car industry. You don't hear of BMW / Porsche etc being sold out.
Car design we are good at, innovation we are good at, actually building a car that will not fall to bits.... I think not. After spending £6000 on mine since September the joke is wearing a little thin.
And before I get the predictable response of if you don't like it sell it......... who the hell wants to buy a poor quality british sports car?
>> Edited by jamesuk28 on Tuesday 27th July 23:13
Corin Denton said:
I can see it now just Lotus got saddled with engineering Protons..
One of the most successful parts of Lotus' business is its consultancy. They engineer cars for many different manufacturers and one of the few which will admit it is Proton.... but since I know a few people from the area around the Lotus factory, well lets just say that you would be suprised as to who Lotus do work for....
And lets not forget that, in the hands of Proton, Lotus is now going from strength to strength. They have at last re-engineered the Elise to take a better engine, federalised it for the US and re-started design work on a replacement for the Elise and even a mid-range model.... strength to strength..... hardly an example of doom and gloom and death of a once-great name....
IIRC Lotus very nearly ran out money engineering the Elise - and I mean abosolutely stoney broke. It was all or nothing.... but now with stabilty and backing they can move forward and develop the brand... which, lets face it means a longer life in the global economy....Its just a shame that they had to go through a rough patch with other less helpful investors...
jamesuk28 said:
And before I get the predictable response of if you don't like it sell it......... who the hell wants to buy a poor quality british sports car?
>> Edited by jamesuk28 on Tuesday 27th July 23:13
Several thousand of us, actually. Some have (or have had) more than one. Granted we may not have spent the sums you have, but perhaps there is a price to pay for being in at the 'ground floor' in such a market.
To be fair, if you can move in the monetary circles that grant you access to such expensive cars, you probably have the means to make that lost money back. When I rebuilt my TVR engine and spent a month's salary on it, I never saw it again... no overtime, bonuses or anything else in my job.
I drive cars I really can 'afford'.... as, presumably, do you
Ian
Rolls Royce
have just produced there finest car of all time under german managment, It is designed by brits built by brits but payed for by the bosh, Cant be that bad can it, Rover 75(good car) much the same. Imagine a TVR With equal build quality to porche but cheaper and faster, That is what will happen under "New Management". It is probably what Peter Wheeler always wanted but could not afford. Long live TVR, The TVR is dead.
have just produced there finest car of all time under german managment, It is designed by brits built by brits but payed for by the bosh, Cant be that bad can it, Rover 75(good car) much the same. Imagine a TVR With equal build quality to porche but cheaper and faster, That is what will happen under "New Management". It is probably what Peter Wheeler always wanted but could not afford. Long live TVR, The TVR is dead. Los Angeles said:
You'll probably find Wheeler has some distant Russian blood in him, some Volga boatman or Cossak perhaps, so best we be careful before slagging off its saviour and investor. God bless 'im, I say.
A private investor, an enthusiast with real capital, is to be preferred to an internationally based parent car company and its precarious financial profitability.
If like me you bought a TVR over a Porsche because you prefer innovation, passion, romance and spontinaety to cold calculated precision, maybe it was the right decision after all. Future assured, at least in the mid-term, TVR residuals can only go up! Now where did I put that bottle of Vodka?
Slancha or something like that, I absolutly embrace this with the finest Absolut(Its a type of Vodka)
FFS everybody - it's still British!
Why does having a different owner (irrespective of his nationality) stop it being British?
As I mentioned on another of these (too) many topics the head of the Bank of England is not British*. Does that now make it a Foreign Bank?
Wake up you lot - the world is still spinning and TVR are still making cars in Blackpool. Now, perhaps with a few fresh rubels, they can sort out their quality problems and poke a sharp stick up (most of) the Dealers.
* I made that bit up, but you get my drift.
Why does having a different owner (irrespective of his nationality) stop it being British?
As I mentioned on another of these (too) many topics the head of the Bank of England is not British*. Does that now make it a Foreign Bank?
Wake up you lot - the world is still spinning and TVR are still making cars in Blackpool. Now, perhaps with a few fresh rubels, they can sort out their quality problems and poke a sharp stick up (most of) the Dealers.
* I made that bit up, but you get my drift.
If Peter Wheeler employed anyone as a general manager of any nationality it would syill be British, it is NOW SOLD. Bank of England analogy does not hold up.
But how long will they be making cars in Blackpool???!!
and not some cheaper labour market (ie noble)
that is the question.
A lot of a TVR's appeal for many people was it is BRITISH, owned and located in the UK. They will have to some work to keep those potential and existing customers on board.
B
>> Edited by bjwoods on Wednesday 28th July 10:34
bjwoods said:
If Peter Wheeler employed anyone as a general manager of any nationality it would syill be British, it is NOW SOLD. Bank of England analogy does not hold up.
But how long will they be making cars in Blackpool???!!
and not some cheaper labour market (ie noble)
that is the question.
A lot of a TVR's appeal for many people was it is BRITISH, owned and located in the UK. They will have to some work to keep those potential and existing customers on board.
Well said!
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