Embarrassed to be a PH member
Embarrassed to be a PH member
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griff2be

Original Poster:

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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I have always been proud of my association with PistonHeads. I have got to know a large number of incredibly nice people over the years - the website helped me into TVR ownership and on to racing TVRs. Many of the people I have met will be life-long friends.

However, I have to say that a large proportion of the threads posted on here over the last 24 hours leave me feeling embarrassed to be associated with them.

I am utterly gob-smacked at the reaction of the majority of people posting to the news that Peter has sold his shares in TVR. The volume of negative comments is dismaying.

I will probably meet the new owner over the next few months (if not weeks) given my involvement in the Tuscan Challenge. How will I feel about having PH stickers on my race car if this nonsense continues?

The future of TVR today is more secure than it was two days ago and that has to be a positive thing.

Can I therefore make a plea for common sense and people to be a little more open minded and less hysterical.

simpo two

92,658 posts

294 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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griff2be said:
Can I therefore make a plea for common sense and people to be a little more open minded and less hysterical.

I would take the 'wait and see approach'. Some people seem bothered that he's Russian, or that he's 24, or that he's very rich, or that his dad ran a dodgy bank.
So what? I'm sure PW was only after his money, and that can do the company no harm.
PH is merely a place where people can express opinons - a rare enough thing these days - and is therefore to be valued, even if it means people will disagree.

No 1

232 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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I agree, I can't see what all the fuss is about. I'd rather the company go to an individual (albeit foreign) enthusiast with pockets of cash to invest than be brought down to some drab mass manufacturers level by being bought by Ford or similar.

A big hand and three cheers to NS, welcome on board.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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I've been keeping my head down on this one (hard for me to do, I know), and I tend to agree with you, although I'm proud to be a PH'er.

I hope the change in ownership gives as much of a leap into the future as the one that Peter Wheeler gave the Company.

Hopefully, the investment that TVR desparately needed will now be forthcoming, and that they can now move forward. The nationality of the owner is largely academic in my view, the enthusiasm for the product and its development is much more important.

TVR is not dead, its just been given lunch!

griff2be

Original Poster:

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Let me put it a different way.

People from the factory read these pages.

Perhaps people should only post things about PW or Mr Smolenski that they would be prepared to say to their faces.

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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People do forget that the world at large reads what is read here.

I just hope that we can get some good info flowing from Blackpool to keep everyone excited about future prospects. An information blackout wouldn't be good.

hansgerd

1,274 posts

313 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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simpo two said:
I would take the 'wait and see approach'. Some people seem bothered that he's Russian, or that he's 24, or that he's very rich, or that his dad ran a dodgy bank.


Wasn't Martin Lilley even younger when he took over the company in the 1960s ? The money injection certainly can't be wrong thing. I've got no objections and wish them luck and all the best.

shnozz

30,624 posts

300 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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hansgerd said:


Wasn't Martin Lilley even younger when he took over the company in the 1960s ?


I too thought that - or not much older. That was his quality idea with the scantily clad ladies at the motorshow too. Top man

FourWheelDrift

92,233 posts

313 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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well said.

I also am fed up with the overly pessimistic moans of those people, progress is a change by it's very nature. I'm sure if the world was left in the pessimists hands we'd all be back to cavorting druids, death by stoning, and dung for dinner.

Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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PetrolTed said:
I just hope that we can get some good info flowing from Blackpool to keep everyone excited about future prospects.



Glasnost

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Hmm, freedom of speech?

If we all thought the same it would be a very dull world, wouldn't it?

Tim

judas

6,234 posts

288 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Well said!

There has been a whole load of rubbish and groundless speculation posted over the past few hours. I have to admit I was as shocked as everyone else but all the knee-jerk doom mongering and chest-beating jingoism is, quite frankly, as stupid as it is depressing. Get some perspective folks...

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Its the Classic Half empty or Half Full Approach.


I prefer the Half Full

This is the start of the fourth Chapter In TVR's History, An I for one wish them luck and all the best for the future.

I seem to remember a father and son team having a good run with the company a few years ago..

Tvr's are an emotional purchase and emotions are high, I think the outbursts on here just reflect how enthusiastic people are for the company.

hopefully Mr Smolensky will understand this and hold the company in the same passion that we all do

G

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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I dont think the majority of people use PH to tell the world their views.
Its has greater similarities to a chat with mates down the pub. Opinions change from day to day. Don't take it to heart.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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shnozz said:

hansgerd said:


Wasn't Martin Lilley even younger when he took over the company in the 1960s ?



I too thought that - or not much older. That was his quality idea with the scantily clad ladies at the motorshow too. Top man


Dont mention that or Griff2be will be expecting said ladies drapped ov his Tuscan at the next race, never mind holding brollies

squirrelz

1,186 posts

300 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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I must admit, I was expecting to see a post along the lines of "I'm 24 - am I the youngest person to own TVR?"

TUS 373

5,137 posts

310 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Well, I feel reasonably 'close' to what goes on at TVR, hence bringing you the TVR sold story. Quite amazed that people didn't believe me at first.

However, knowing what I do about the current state of TVR, I believe that this is, on balance, a good thing for the company, the brand, the marque and its customers.

I know that view is probably only agreed with by 50% of the PH population - but let's have a little calm and some patience. PW is still there for the forseeable, and just look at the stunning designs that have come with his reign.

I'm at a loss as to the 'what's my car worth?' questions that are being made on here - simply amazed by it all. Your car's value has not changed overnight because the company's equity has changed hands!!!

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

277 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Graham said:
Dont mention that or Griff2be will be expecting said ladies drapped ov his Tuscan at the next race, never mind holding brollies
I suspect that Griff2Be is hoping for somewhat younger specimens than those girls will be now. Their daughters perhaps .

TDTH1975

631 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Anyone got Mr Smolenski's e-mail address . Given those with a positive outlook are so few, I might just rant and rave to the world on how this is the best move ever for TVR, send the link to Mr Smolenski and bingo - a new TVR might land on my door step

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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All the 'bad' vibes will die down and become positive, I'm sure of this.

The same happened when the Sagaris first appeared. 72 hours later, most of the 'dislikers' had changed their minds.

Its a big event this, one that makes people have an impulsive reaction rather than constructive.

It'll turn out fine.