TVR'S AND DRIFTING!
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7 TVR

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2,589 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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So since the last round of the challenge at Oulton i've been a bit deflated!
Winters here Salt roads, No racing for 5 months, no track days and not much TVR fun & thats after a summer of track & trip madness.
Add in the need to improve my driving skills on the limit and have some winter fun to boot and a winter PH hobby was needed!
Now i've already done the whole dirt thing and figure i'm getting on a bit for anything to Pepsi max extreme so after much thought a few of us have wrapped up the TVR's for the winter and decided to go drifting smile
We bought a couple of old E36 BMW328i taxed and mot for £500 each and went to Brands on Thursday with a friend who has a tricked up Skyline drift car! [ Only mods where to weld up the diffs and tape up the handbrakes£100]
We paid £60 from 9.30 till 4.30 and i think its about the most fun i've had in a car for £60 bar a night in Paris in a cheap rental wink
I spent most of the day going backwards but never stopped laughing, it was pure automobile hooliganism with no one telling you to stop.
A very laid back atmosphere with a real mix of cars i even took the M5 out for a lap much to the horror of my mate who wants to buy it yikes
Total cost for the day was £100 including fuel, 2 p/w tyres for the journey home & a sausage sandwich biggrin
It does not matter if it rains, what the car looks like or what i hit so i'll be back next week for more.
The couple of times i got it right i could only compare it to pulling wheelies very addictive so later that night got me thinking well what would be the best TVR for a cheap drift car??? There are loads of ricers and BMW's but figured an old rear wheeled drive V8 TVR would do the job just as well and look even better smile
Have already seen a lightly damaged tired chim going for silly money!
For those that know me and are sitting there shaking your heads, just come next week!!!!!!

Chilliman

12,419 posts

190 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Hi Christian, can you tell us a bit more? I've seen short clips of drifting on yootoob but don't really know what it's all about confused Is it drifting in a big circle or is there a 'track'? Is the idea to drift all four wheels or is it all about hanging the back out? Sorry for all the questions mate

Chilli smile

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

208 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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I did a similar at Brands a year ago,but mine was a driving experience day whipping about in Skylines & Nissan Z??, all provided by the organisers, and soon realised I was ste at finite car control BUT absolutley loved it....... also had the fantastic experience being a passenger in a car with one of the instructors for about 12 laps of a cicuit they set out.... my experince was only for half day and cost £60 which IMHO is fantastic value, considering it's their cars, fuel, tyres (I burst 2) and instruction





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Edited by Hoover. on Saturday 17th November 09:31

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Morning Chilli how's the car coming along?
I'm no expert on the subject but the day was run by a company called Driftworks Academy or something and has been running a year, they teach drifting and car control in their own cars and do passenger rides!
They also have open sessions where you can bring your own toy down and let rip
There where 3 circuits made up of 2 small beginner coned of areas which where kept wet with sprinklers, where you could do figure of 8's and generally get used to the car being sideways.
Then there was a big circuit made up of about 5 big corners which was kept dry and was where most of the experienced guys where popping rear tyres regularly ! [Tyres could be swapped in the pits for £20 which made my 888's feel v expensive]
After spending an hour on the small circuits i then got one of the instructors to show me how its done in my 328 which was epic to say the least, then i spent the next couple of hours making a tit of myself in front of a spectating crowd but eventually managed to be able to drift from one corner to the next with a decent transverse as they call it smile Never managed more than two corners in a row but hope springs eternal!
At one point i had a Nisssan 200sx drift round the outside of me mid corner only then to find the owner in the pits elbow deep in grease under the car changing parts, nothing strange there except for the fact SHE was Kent answer to Nicole Shertzerwinger[dont tell me i spelt it wrong] and was wearing skin tight jeans and a pair of killer heels biggrin I asked if i could take a picture to show the wife and got a friendly smile and an offer of lessons! for the wife not me frown
I'm of to Santa Pod in the morning to check out what they have on offer but apparently there are larger circuits with more area to play!
I was just looking for some cheap winter Petrol head fun which will at the same time help improve my car control and i think i've found it!
I'll drop you a line when we are down at Brands next week if you fancy coming down byebye


Edited by 7 TVR on Saturday 17th November 09:57

itsallyellow

3,877 posts

249 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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I would be up for doing this. Let me know if you do another one!

Mike

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Much prefer the Toyota Supra for drifting... wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qecYEIvg9E

GT6k

963 posts

191 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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SPS

1,306 posts

289 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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One of my sons has been into drifting from the very start and instructs on occasion at Oulton Park and Buxton. His tag is Paz and has drifted most of the race tracks around the UK and has drifted in the states.
Look on the Driftworks site and you will see some links, or just got to the tube.
Drifting comes in two basic formats - singles and twins. Some people go for massive HP power slides and a few go for speed of entry with modest HP (these guys are IMHO rather brave as they need the high speeds to keep up the momentum etc).
It's massive in Japan where it started many years ago with things like Toyota 86's/ Datsuns (Nissan) and other rear wheel drive cars. Now very big in Europe and the USA.
There is a lot of skill in drifting and they can drift at speeds you would not believe.
If you want to drift firstly you would need to at least weld the diff up. A really tricked up drift car costs thousands of pounds or for a fun day an old 328 BMW (circa £500) with welded diff will get you started.hehe

RedSpike66

2,343 posts

241 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Christian,
Sounds like great fun, but where's the picture of the mechanic in the heels ??? That would have us all racing down there next weekend... hehe

MrChips

3,299 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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RedSpike66 said:
where's the picture of the mechanic in the heels ???
Tick tock tick tock whistle

7 TVR

Original Poster:

2,589 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Mike[Redspike] she was the driver and mechanic wink
No pictures but i have video on the iphone of her using the tools i fib you not!! if you come down i promise to give you a look!

Mike[Itsallyellow] I'll send you a pm when we are going down but i was going to have to put up with you kicking my arse in the challenge all next year now your going to come and show me up drifting as well yikes
Dan B has a 328 he will also be bringing so should be fun

So the fiddler in me has been at it already biggrin interior stripped out and stiffer rear springs [cheap as chips from Euro] fitted, bucket seat and a smaller steering wheel minus the airbag are next on the list, as the first time i was clinging onto anything solid in the car for some stability.
Anyone with a cheap bucket seat that will fit i'm in the market?

Still no suggestions on the best donor car for a cheap TVR drifter???


Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I reckon a cerb would be reasonably good for this, but a wedge would look very cool if you could get it to work right.

itsallyellow

3,877 posts

249 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Well my road Cerb is what I will be using. I think you should just chuck some old rubber on the TC car! The only problem with TVR's is the steering lock not being quite enough for drifting... Just have to get busy with the throttle!!

GT6k

963 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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The cerb was certainly driftable, jazz up the tyres once to warm them then sit it in second and hold at about 4k and off it goes. I let the instructor from driftworks (Lex) have a go and he nailed it without any problem then i spent the rest of the day tryi8ng to do it anywhere near as well.

My advice would be
1) your cooling must be good, do it on a cold day and take the car for a run after each go too cool off. At Santa pod i just drove down to the gate and back which was enough to bring it back into line, it was amazing how squishy the car was on almost melted tyres.
2) stop as soon as you hear any whipping or buzzing noises from the tyres, you probably don't want to burst them
3) don't even think about what it is doing to the diff.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Please don't wreck any old TVRs in your pursuit of cheap fun. nono

SOME people can only afford to buy older models in need of work (like V8 Wedges).

These cars are getting too rare and precious now.

Plenty of old stamped-out rwd tin boxes about. smile

Chilliman

12,419 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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7 TVR said:
Morning Chilli how's the car coming along?
I'm no expert on the subject but the day was run by a company called Driftworks Academy or something and has been running a year, they teach drifting and car control in their own cars and do passenger rides!
They also have open sessions where you can bring your own toy down and let rip
There where 3 circuits made up of 2 small beginner coned of areas which where kept wet with sprinklers, where you could do figure of 8's and generally get used to the car being sideways.
Then there was a big circuit made up of about 5 big corners which was kept dry and was where most of the experienced guys where popping rear tyres regularly ! [Tyres could be swapped in the pits for £20 which made my 888's feel v expensive]
After spending an hour on the small circuits i then got one of the instructors to show me how its done in my 328 which was epic to say the least, then i spent the next couple of hours making a tit of myself in front of a spectating crowd but eventually managed to be able to drift from one corner to the next with a decent transverse as they call it smile Never managed more than two corners in a row but hope springs eternal!
At one point i had a Nisssan 200sx drift round the outside of me mid corner only then to find the owner in the pits elbow deep in grease under the car changing parts, nothing strange there except for the fact SHE was Kent answer to Nicole Shertzerwinger[dont tell me i spelt it wrong] and was wearing skin tight jeans and a pair of killer heels biggrin I asked if i could take a picture to show the wife and got a friendly smile and an offer of lessons! for the wife not me frown
I'm of to Santa Pod in the morning to check out what they have on offer but apparently there are larger circuits with more area to play!
I was just looking for some cheap winter Petrol head fun which will at the same time help improve my car control and i think i've found it!
I'll drop you a line when we are down at Brands next week if you fancy coming down byebye


Edited by 7 TVR on Saturday 17th November 09:57
Christian, sounds like awesome fun smile Thanks for the info, I had no idea what the drifting thing was all about confused

I'm back in Aberdeen next week, so can't make any mid week meets, but weekends at least till mid January are looking good smile Please let me know if you're doing any weekend stuff over the next couple of months.... Cheers mate and thanks for the explanations.... wink

Cheers,

Chilli

spitfire4v8

4,025 posts

210 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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a tamora with a welded up diff drifts nicely smile you dont have to smoke your tyres away though .. if the car is balanced you only need tiny throttle inputs to hold it in a nice drift. These people who use a million revs are missing out on honing their finesse. For me the pleasure is in holding the drift with the bare minimum of input.
My car of choice from the tvr stable though is the cerbera sp 6 on original 225 tyres all round. Instant throttle response, docile/linear power delivery, little grip. Drift heaven all day longggggggggg smile

Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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ohhh Spitefire's mention of a Tamora suddenly reminded me of Terry Grant (aka Stuntman) who keeps his toys in a barn around the corner from me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ6orsHdC_E&fea...



spitfire4v8

4,025 posts

210 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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yep that's what i was talking about, i've drifted terry's tamora (in my own little way, not terry style thats for sure! bow )