TVR'S AND DRIFTING!
Discussion
So since the last round of the challenge at Oulton i've been a bit deflated!
Winters here Salt roads, No racing for 5 months, no track days and not much TVR fun & thats after a summer of track & trip madness.
Add in the need to improve my driving skills on the limit and have some winter fun to boot and a winter PH hobby was needed!
Now i've already done the whole dirt thing and figure i'm getting on a bit for anything to Pepsi max extreme so after much thought a few of us have wrapped up the TVR's for the winter and decided to go drifting
We bought a couple of old E36 BMW328i taxed and mot for £500 each and went to Brands on Thursday with a friend who has a tricked up Skyline drift car! [ Only mods where to weld up the diffs and tape up the handbrakes£100]
We paid £60 from 9.30 till 4.30 and i think its about the most fun i've had in a car for £60 bar a night in Paris in a cheap rental
I spent most of the day going backwards but never stopped laughing, it was pure automobile hooliganism with no one telling you to stop.
A very laid back atmosphere with a real mix of cars i even took the M5 out for a lap much to the horror of my mate who wants to buy it
Total cost for the day was £100 including fuel, 2 p/w tyres for the journey home & a sausage sandwich
It does not matter if it rains, what the car looks like or what i hit so i'll be back next week for more.
The couple of times i got it right i could only compare it to pulling wheelies very addictive so later that night got me thinking well what would be the best TVR for a cheap drift car??? There are loads of ricers and BMW's but figured an old rear wheeled drive V8 TVR would do the job just as well and look even better
Have already seen a lightly damaged tired chim going for silly money!
For those that know me and are sitting there shaking your heads, just come next week!!!!!!
Winters here Salt roads, No racing for 5 months, no track days and not much TVR fun & thats after a summer of track & trip madness.
Add in the need to improve my driving skills on the limit and have some winter fun to boot and a winter PH hobby was needed!
Now i've already done the whole dirt thing and figure i'm getting on a bit for anything to Pepsi max extreme so after much thought a few of us have wrapped up the TVR's for the winter and decided to go drifting

We bought a couple of old E36 BMW328i taxed and mot for £500 each and went to Brands on Thursday with a friend who has a tricked up Skyline drift car! [ Only mods where to weld up the diffs and tape up the handbrakes£100]
We paid £60 from 9.30 till 4.30 and i think its about the most fun i've had in a car for £60 bar a night in Paris in a cheap rental

I spent most of the day going backwards but never stopped laughing, it was pure automobile hooliganism with no one telling you to stop.
A very laid back atmosphere with a real mix of cars i even took the M5 out for a lap much to the horror of my mate who wants to buy it

Total cost for the day was £100 including fuel, 2 p/w tyres for the journey home & a sausage sandwich

It does not matter if it rains, what the car looks like or what i hit so i'll be back next week for more.
The couple of times i got it right i could only compare it to pulling wheelies very addictive so later that night got me thinking well what would be the best TVR for a cheap drift car??? There are loads of ricers and BMW's but figured an old rear wheeled drive V8 TVR would do the job just as well and look even better

Have already seen a lightly damaged tired chim going for silly money!
For those that know me and are sitting there shaking your heads, just come next week!!!!!!
Hi Christian, can you tell us a bit more? I've seen short clips of drifting on yootoob but don't really know what it's all about
Is it drifting in a big circle or is there a 'track'? Is the idea to drift all four wheels or is it all about hanging the back out? Sorry for all the questions mate
Chilli
Is it drifting in a big circle or is there a 'track'? Is the idea to drift all four wheels or is it all about hanging the back out? Sorry for all the questions mateChilli

I did a similar at Brands a year ago,but mine was a driving experience day whipping about in Skylines & Nissan Z??, all provided by the organisers, and soon realised I was s
te at finite car control BUT absolutley loved it....... also had the fantastic experience being a passenger in a car with one of the instructors for about 12 laps of a cicuit they set out.... my experince was only for half day and cost £60 which IMHO is fantastic value, considering it's their cars, fuel, tyres (I burst 2) and instruction
te at finite car control BUT absolutley loved it....... also had the fantastic experience being a passenger in a car with one of the instructors for about 12 laps of a cicuit they set out.... my experince was only for half day and cost £60 which IMHO is fantastic value, considering it's their cars, fuel, tyres (I burst 2) and instructionEdited by Hoover. on Saturday 17th November 09:30
Edited by Hoover. on Saturday 17th November 09:31
Morning Chilli how's the car coming along?
I'm no expert on the subject but the day was run by a company called Driftworks Academy or something and has been running a year, they teach drifting and car control in their own cars and do passenger rides!
They also have open sessions where you can bring your own toy down and let rip
There where 3 circuits made up of 2 small beginner coned of areas which where kept wet with sprinklers, where you could do figure of 8's and generally get used to the car being sideways.
Then there was a big circuit made up of about 5 big corners which was kept dry and was where most of the experienced guys where popping rear tyres regularly ! [Tyres could be swapped in the pits for £20 which made my 888's feel v expensive]
After spending an hour on the small circuits i then got one of the instructors to show me how its done in my 328 which was epic to say the least, then i spent the next couple of hours making a tit of myself in front of a spectating crowd but eventually managed to be able to drift from one corner to the next with a decent transverse as they call it
Never managed more than two corners in a row but hope springs eternal!
At one point i had a Nisssan 200sx drift round the outside of me mid corner only then to find the owner in the pits elbow deep in grease under the car changing parts, nothing strange there except for the fact SHE was Kent answer to Nicole Shertzerwinger[dont tell me i spelt it wrong] and was wearing skin tight jeans and a pair of killer heels
I asked if i could take a picture to show the wife and got a friendly smile and an offer of lessons! for the wife not me 
I'm of to Santa Pod in the morning to check out what they have on offer but apparently there are larger circuits with more area to play!
I was just looking for some cheap winter Petrol head fun which will at the same time help improve my car control and i think i've found it!
I'll drop you a line when we are down at Brands next week if you fancy coming down
I'm no expert on the subject but the day was run by a company called Driftworks Academy or something and has been running a year, they teach drifting and car control in their own cars and do passenger rides!
They also have open sessions where you can bring your own toy down and let rip
There where 3 circuits made up of 2 small beginner coned of areas which where kept wet with sprinklers, where you could do figure of 8's and generally get used to the car being sideways.
Then there was a big circuit made up of about 5 big corners which was kept dry and was where most of the experienced guys where popping rear tyres regularly ! [Tyres could be swapped in the pits for £20 which made my 888's feel v expensive]
After spending an hour on the small circuits i then got one of the instructors to show me how its done in my 328 which was epic to say the least, then i spent the next couple of hours making a tit of myself in front of a spectating crowd but eventually managed to be able to drift from one corner to the next with a decent transverse as they call it
Never managed more than two corners in a row but hope springs eternal!At one point i had a Nisssan 200sx drift round the outside of me mid corner only then to find the owner in the pits elbow deep in grease under the car changing parts, nothing strange there except for the fact SHE was Kent answer to Nicole Shertzerwinger[dont tell me i spelt it wrong] and was wearing skin tight jeans and a pair of killer heels
I asked if i could take a picture to show the wife and got a friendly smile and an offer of lessons! for the wife not me 
I'm of to Santa Pod in the morning to check out what they have on offer but apparently there are larger circuits with more area to play!
I was just looking for some cheap winter Petrol head fun which will at the same time help improve my car control and i think i've found it!
I'll drop you a line when we are down at Brands next week if you fancy coming down

Edited by 7 TVR on Saturday 17th November 09:57
One of my sons has been into drifting from the very start and instructs on occasion at Oulton Park and Buxton. His tag is Paz and has drifted most of the race tracks around the UK and has drifted in the states.
Look on the Driftworks site and you will see some links, or just got to the tube.
Drifting comes in two basic formats - singles and twins. Some people go for massive HP power slides and a few go for speed of entry with modest HP (these guys are IMHO rather brave as they need the high speeds to keep up the momentum etc).
It's massive in Japan where it started many years ago with things like Toyota 86's/ Datsuns (Nissan) and other rear wheel drive cars. Now very big in Europe and the USA.
There is a lot of skill in drifting and they can drift at speeds you would not believe.
If you want to drift firstly you would need to at least weld the diff up. A really tricked up drift car costs thousands of pounds or for a fun day an old 328 BMW (circa £500) with welded diff will get you started.
Look on the Driftworks site and you will see some links, or just got to the tube.
Drifting comes in two basic formats - singles and twins. Some people go for massive HP power slides and a few go for speed of entry with modest HP (these guys are IMHO rather brave as they need the high speeds to keep up the momentum etc).
It's massive in Japan where it started many years ago with things like Toyota 86's/ Datsuns (Nissan) and other rear wheel drive cars. Now very big in Europe and the USA.
There is a lot of skill in drifting and they can drift at speeds you would not believe.
If you want to drift firstly you would need to at least weld the diff up. A really tricked up drift car costs thousands of pounds or for a fun day an old 328 BMW (circa £500) with welded diff will get you started.

Mike[Redspike] she was the driver and mechanic 
No pictures but i have video on the iphone of her using the tools i fib you not!! if you come down i promise to give you a look!
Mike[Itsallyellow] I'll send you a pm when we are going down but i was going to have to put up with you kicking my arse in the challenge all next year now your going to come and show me up drifting as well
Dan B has a 328 he will also be bringing so should be fun
So the fiddler in me has been at it already
interior stripped out and stiffer rear springs [cheap as chips from Euro] fitted, bucket seat and a smaller steering wheel minus the airbag are next on the list, as the first time i was clinging onto anything solid in the car for some stability.
Anyone with a cheap bucket seat that will fit i'm in the market?
Still no suggestions on the best donor car for a cheap TVR drifter???

No pictures but i have video on the iphone of her using the tools i fib you not!! if you come down i promise to give you a look!
Mike[Itsallyellow] I'll send you a pm when we are going down but i was going to have to put up with you kicking my arse in the challenge all next year now your going to come and show me up drifting as well

Dan B has a 328 he will also be bringing so should be fun
So the fiddler in me has been at it already
interior stripped out and stiffer rear springs [cheap as chips from Euro] fitted, bucket seat and a smaller steering wheel minus the airbag are next on the list, as the first time i was clinging onto anything solid in the car for some stability.Anyone with a cheap bucket seat that will fit i'm in the market?
Still no suggestions on the best donor car for a cheap TVR drifter???
The cerb was certainly driftable, jazz up the tyres once to warm them then sit it in second and hold at about 4k and off it goes. I let the instructor from driftworks (Lex) have a go and he nailed it without any problem then i spent the rest of the day tryi8ng to do it anywhere near as well.
My advice would be
1) your cooling must be good, do it on a cold day and take the car for a run after each go too cool off. At Santa pod i just drove down to the gate and back which was enough to bring it back into line, it was amazing how squishy the car was on almost melted tyres.
2) stop as soon as you hear any whipping or buzzing noises from the tyres, you probably don't want to burst them
3) don't even think about what it is doing to the diff.

My advice would be
1) your cooling must be good, do it on a cold day and take the car for a run after each go too cool off. At Santa pod i just drove down to the gate and back which was enough to bring it back into line, it was amazing how squishy the car was on almost melted tyres.
2) stop as soon as you hear any whipping or buzzing noises from the tyres, you probably don't want to burst them
3) don't even think about what it is doing to the diff.
7 TVR said:
Morning Chilli how's the car coming along?
I'm no expert on the subject but the day was run by a company called Driftworks Academy or something and has been running a year, they teach drifting and car control in their own cars and do passenger rides!
They also have open sessions where you can bring your own toy down and let rip
There where 3 circuits made up of 2 small beginner coned of areas which where kept wet with sprinklers, where you could do figure of 8's and generally get used to the car being sideways.
Then there was a big circuit made up of about 5 big corners which was kept dry and was where most of the experienced guys where popping rear tyres regularly ! [Tyres could be swapped in the pits for £20 which made my 888's feel v expensive]
After spending an hour on the small circuits i then got one of the instructors to show me how its done in my 328 which was epic to say the least, then i spent the next couple of hours making a tit of myself in front of a spectating crowd but eventually managed to be able to drift from one corner to the next with a decent transverse as they call it
Never managed more than two corners in a row but hope springs eternal!
At one point i had a Nisssan 200sx drift round the outside of me mid corner only then to find the owner in the pits elbow deep in grease under the car changing parts, nothing strange there except for the fact SHE was Kent answer to Nicole Shertzerwinger[dont tell me i spelt it wrong] and was wearing skin tight jeans and a pair of killer heels
I asked if i could take a picture to show the wife and got a friendly smile and an offer of lessons! for the wife not me 
I'm of to Santa Pod in the morning to check out what they have on offer but apparently there are larger circuits with more area to play!
I was just looking for some cheap winter Petrol head fun which will at the same time help improve my car control and i think i've found it!
I'll drop you a line when we are down at Brands next week if you fancy coming down
Christian, sounds like awesome fun I'm no expert on the subject but the day was run by a company called Driftworks Academy or something and has been running a year, they teach drifting and car control in their own cars and do passenger rides!
They also have open sessions where you can bring your own toy down and let rip
There where 3 circuits made up of 2 small beginner coned of areas which where kept wet with sprinklers, where you could do figure of 8's and generally get used to the car being sideways.
Then there was a big circuit made up of about 5 big corners which was kept dry and was where most of the experienced guys where popping rear tyres regularly ! [Tyres could be swapped in the pits for £20 which made my 888's feel v expensive]
After spending an hour on the small circuits i then got one of the instructors to show me how its done in my 328 which was epic to say the least, then i spent the next couple of hours making a tit of myself in front of a spectating crowd but eventually managed to be able to drift from one corner to the next with a decent transverse as they call it
Never managed more than two corners in a row but hope springs eternal!At one point i had a Nisssan 200sx drift round the outside of me mid corner only then to find the owner in the pits elbow deep in grease under the car changing parts, nothing strange there except for the fact SHE was Kent answer to Nicole Shertzerwinger[dont tell me i spelt it wrong] and was wearing skin tight jeans and a pair of killer heels
I asked if i could take a picture to show the wife and got a friendly smile and an offer of lessons! for the wife not me 
I'm of to Santa Pod in the morning to check out what they have on offer but apparently there are larger circuits with more area to play!
I was just looking for some cheap winter Petrol head fun which will at the same time help improve my car control and i think i've found it!
I'll drop you a line when we are down at Brands next week if you fancy coming down

Edited by 7 TVR on Saturday 17th November 09:57
Thanks for the info, I had no idea what the drifting thing was all about 
I'm back in Aberdeen next week, so can't make any mid week meets, but weekends at least till mid January are looking good
Please let me know if you're doing any weekend stuff over the next couple of months.... Cheers mate and thanks for the explanations.... 
Cheers,
Chilli
a tamora with a welded up diff drifts nicely
you dont have to smoke your tyres away though .. if the car is balanced you only need tiny throttle inputs to hold it in a nice drift. These people who use a million revs are missing out on honing their finesse. For me the pleasure is in holding the drift with the bare minimum of input.
My car of choice from the tvr stable though is the cerbera sp 6 on original 225 tyres all round. Instant throttle response, docile/linear power delivery, little grip. Drift heaven all day longggggggggg
you dont have to smoke your tyres away though .. if the car is balanced you only need tiny throttle inputs to hold it in a nice drift. These people who use a million revs are missing out on honing their finesse. For me the pleasure is in holding the drift with the bare minimum of input. My car of choice from the tvr stable though is the cerbera sp 6 on original 225 tyres all round. Instant throttle response, docile/linear power delivery, little grip. Drift heaven all day longggggggggg

ohhh Spitefire's mention of a Tamora suddenly reminded me of Terry Grant (aka Stuntman) who keeps his toys in a barn around the corner from me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ6orsHdC_E&fea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ6orsHdC_E&fea...
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