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stooz

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3,005 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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One less griffith (an 02 reg too) on the road after yesterday.
Owner managed to not spot the black and white painted island in front of him, and decided to attempt to drive over the top of it.

Driver taken to hospital, so sympathy there.

But considering it was a very straight short (500 yards) dual carriageway before hand in perfect conditions

- and a 40mph zone the entire length of the track.. I would suggest it was caused by over enthusiastic use of the loud pedal. Not clever considering the pedestrian crossing they went past not 200 yards previous.

I can't see how it happened, so I won't suggest blame, could have been a blow out? but do consider the length of the skidmarx were HUGE.

I took some photos, will edit out the plate and post this evening.

Bonce

4,339 posts

308 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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You shouldn't speculate on an accident you weren't involved in.

stooz

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Friday 3rd September 2004
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Why? its my normal train of thought. "how did that happen?"

I was merely painting the scene;
I think the photos will tell a different story.

admiral

214 posts

295 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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I would advise not posting the photos unless the owner is on here and gives you permission to do so.

plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Have to agree with Bonce and Admiral.

If you stuffed your motor would you savour people viewing the result of said stuffing?

stooz

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Friday 3rd September 2004
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admiral said:
I would advise not posting the photos unless the owner is on here and gives you permission to do so.


excuse me for the confusion, but why? shall I just send them to wreckedexotics.com instead? I doubt there is much permission granted there. Also the local newspaper will be showing them before the weekend (not mine, there own).

stooz

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Friday 3rd September 2004
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plotloss said:
If you stuffed your motor would you savour people viewing the result of said stuffing?


happy to discuss the point before I make the final decision of my own : embarrasing yes, but in a public place already, plenty of strangers already seen it, what diffence does a TVR enthusiast site make?

Bonce

4,339 posts

308 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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The driver didn't have a lot of choice about people in the locality seeing the results of the accident. Somebody posting photos on the Internet for a much wider audience to rubberneck over and make rash and ill-informed judgements over the skill of the driver and the circumstances (as will inevitably happen) is another thing entirely.

satman

2,455 posts

275 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Personally, if it were my car crashed, Id be a little annoyed and disapointed if someone were to post them on PH without my prior consent....newspapers seem to be have a rule to themselves, and often someones misfortune, even if that misfortune was their fault or not, is the newspapers gain and no-one elses.

Just my tuppence worth....

stooz

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Friday 3rd September 2004
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Mmmm. how about I show the one of the skidmarx and the road layout, without any cars on a private URL that general surfing would not locate?

jimmyt

332 posts

274 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Does anyone really give a toss?

I certainly don't.

Just post the bloody things and if it gets taken down, well then? So what.

satman

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275 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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stooz said:
Mmmm. how about I show the one of the skidmarx and the road layout, without any cars on a private URL that general surfing would not locate?


It appears to me that by you showing the pictures, that you are saying there is "proof" in the skidmarks and road layout for the driver to be "completely to blame" for the accident.....I say no to the pictures. It is not upto any of us to decide, either with or without pictures, who was to blame.
Only the driver or the car and or the police if involved should be able to come to that conclusion.

It goes without saying...these TVR's bite back sometimes, and sometimes when you least expect it...we should all drive these beasts with respect, safely and especially if being driven in unfamiliar territory!

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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I must agree, if that were my accident I would feel it an invasion for someone else to post pictures. At this point the driver will be trying to make a case for insurance and does not need us compromising that.

Terminator

2,421 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Driver of the Griffith told Police said:
I was driving along the road, minding my own business when Stooz suddenly jumped off the pavement and took a picture of me. Blinded by the flash from his camera, I swerved to avoid him and collided with the central reservation.


ATG

23,671 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Must say I can't see how a fews pics and our prattling is going to make an ounce of difference to plod, insurance, etc. Yes, the owner may prefer it didn't get posted, but he/she isn't going to be identified by showing some pictures of the car or some skid marks. The only people who will recognise it and be able to identify the driver are people who already know the driver.

I appreciate the opportunity to see what happens to these cars when they crash, because it's about the only way we have of judging how safe they are.

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

300 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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satman said:

stooz said:
Mmmm. how about I show the one of the skidmarx and the road layout, without any cars on a private URL that general surfing would not locate?



It appears to me that by you showing the pictures, that you are saying there is "proof" in the skidmarks and road layout for the driver to be "completely to blame" for the accident.....I say no to the pictures. It is not upto any of us to decide, either with or without pictures, who was to blame.
Only the driver or the car and or the police if involved should be able to come to that conclusion.

It goes without saying...these TVR's bite back sometimes, and sometimes when you least expect it...we should all drive these beasts with respect, safely and especially if being driven in unfamiliar territory!


I can only agree with my learned colleague, I don't see what value, however well intentioned, posting photos will provide.

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Stooz, informative of you to advise on the incident but let's leave it at that for now shall we? Until we know what happened, speculation can have adverse and embarassing effects.

Leave it alone please.

seasider

12,728 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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If it was me/my car i would not want a third party posting pictures without my permission....

Keep your pictures to yourself unless the owner asks..

>> Edited by seasider on Friday 3rd September 14:18

daxrush

20 posts

286 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Yeah, you guys are right.
Posting the photos not worth it Stooz.

You haven't got a video clip have you??.....

stooz

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Friday 3rd September 2004
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I wont be posting them. happy to listen to the debate tho. gives me something to think about during the afternoon...

I find the idea of wreckedexotics.com completly contradictical to this. I guess it shows there is all sorts in the world, and there will always be a market somewhere for this type of voyerism.



>> Edited by stooz on Friday 3rd September 14:35
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