Armourfend
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nubbin

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6,809 posts

294 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Opinions please! What does it look like on pale coloured paint? Who recommends it? Hatchn - what does it look like on your Tamora? C'mon, chaps - I am looking at a front end respray after a female numptie rolled her car backwards into mine, and I wonder whether Armourfend is a sound investment?

squirrelz

1,186 posts

287 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Unlucky mate. I think bull-bars are the only defence against numpties who cant park.....

plotloss

67,280 posts

286 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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I'd like to know this on dark coloured cars as well as I am about to get a respray myself.

Is there an Amourfend option to do the very bottom of the Chim front end? I am not too concerned about it up and over the bonnet and around the lights but the front valance has been peppered with chips in the last 8 months.

Matt.

whatever

2,174 posts

286 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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From what I've seen, it tends to end up with a distinct border where polish/wax collects at the edge of it and can't be buffed off properly. It then looks like there's a "seam" running across the front of the car or wing etc.

I guess it depends on the shape of the car (this was on a cerb). If you can fill complete "panels" then you may not get this problem.

I'd also be concerned about how refelctive it is -- if you've got a pearl-type finish, how does having a film over it affect its reflectivity and the effect of polish? Will it look a bit duller?

nubbin

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294 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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know what you mean - stop putting on more questions! I need answers!! (just joking!!)

Lagoo

79 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Sorry Nubbin, having the same dilema.. The ones that i have seen do have a visible line.

How about you have it done and run a photo diary of how bad/good it looks and how much it deteriates with age!

nubbin

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Thursday 20th June 2002
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I'm not too worried about the visible line - the Armourfend kit for the Tamora runs along the vant "smile" and across to the headlight surround - so ther isn't too much border across paintwork. The colour mismatch, and fading, could be a problem on the metallic pale blue of my car, though. I think I'll ring the manufacturer.

nubbin

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294 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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I'm not too worried about the visible line - the Armourfend kit for the Tamora runs along the bonnet vent "smile" and across to the headlight surround - so ther isn't too much border across paintwork. The colour mismatch, and fading, could be a problem on the metallic pale blue of my car, though. I think I'll ring the manufacturer.

grigio alloy

122 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Hello Nubbin-maybe you remember me - we met up at TMS when I was over from Germany to spec up my Tamora.
I am now the proud owner of a Tamora in like yours also in Grigio Alloy or to use the TVR name- Alloy Pearl- with Armourfend.
You can see the Armourfend on this pale colour but it is far less distracting than on the couple of dark blue Tuscans I saw at TMS. I am now back in Germany having driven 800 miles on various motorways in France/Belgium and Germany-lots of flies but no stone chips! After 2000 miles in total the car is still looking mint.
I can recommend the stuff!

nubbin

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Thursday 20th June 2002
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Hello again, grigio - I spoke to James from TMS recently, and he said you'd got your car now. Must be the first one in Germany! I think, aftert what you've said, the investment may be worthwhile. Did TMS fit it for free, by the way?

grigio alloy

122 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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I think my Tamora is the only one in Germany at the moment.
It is causing quite a stir where I live
All comments so far have been very positive - even from the M3, M Roadster and Boxster S drivers who accosted me at my local cafe at the weekend.
Filling up with petrol is also an activity that generates incredulous stares and remarks.
This car definitely generates more interest than my two Griff 500s did here.
The colour scheme also appears to appeal to German taste- Grigio Alloy with black hood, black bison throughout with pale blue stitching throughout.

RE- Armourfend No it was not fitted for free!
Full kit 513 quid inc VAT and fitting!!

brisser

8 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Congrats with the car Grigio. Just a quick question: How's it driving a RHD car in germany? Does it cause any problems? See I hope to be able to buy a used Cerbera once, but as i live in Denmark cars are just ridiculous expensive here and service of a TVR seems to be nonexistent here. If it also turns out to be a drag to run a RHD car here, well I'll probably still be dreaming of the Cerbera
Cheers

douglasr

1,092 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Opinions please! What does it look like on pale coloured paint? Who recommends it? Hatchn - what does it look like on your Tamora? C'mon, chaps - I am looking at a front end respray after a female numptie rolled her car backwards into mine, and I wonder whether Armourfend is a sound investment?


Take a look at the rear wheel arches of an S2 Elise - they come with a small amount of Armorfend as standard. If the car has been waxed, you will see it - it can also turn opaque if a big stone hits is.

shoggoth1

815 posts

281 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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'I think my Tamora is the only one in Germany at the moment.'

It won't be on the 26th.

Cheers.

(Sorry for thread hijacking)

leszekg

263 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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As already posted elsewhere here, I looked into using Armourfend for my car. Rather than looking at new cars with Armourfend recently applied, I took a good look at some customer cars at a local dealer and IMO it didn't look particularly good on cars which had not had it recently applied. The 'Armourfended' areas looked less bright than other parts of the cars and the lines looked awful IMO (whatever the colour). If the Armourfend was one continuous piece with only one 'edge' it may not be so bad but it actually comes as a set of pieces in the kit leaving a variety of joins at various points around the nose, lights, valance and bonnet.

My own preference has been to settle for period 'chip-fixing' and respray. But don't take my word for it, best thing is to visit a dealer who has plenty of customer cars to have a look at to give you an idea of how the Armourfend weathers over time.



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hatchn

352 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th June 2002
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Hi Nubbin,

Sorry to hear about your car, what a bummer.

I would defiantly recommend Armourfend.
If you stand more than a couple of feet away you cannot see the “join” at all.
I have seen other cars were the join is filled up with wax and polish but if you are careful and clean along the join properly each time you wash it then it’s fine.
I have Pearl paint and have noticed no difference between the look or shine of the body work that is covered in Armourfend to the bits that are not.
I’ve now done close on 2000 miles and there is not one stone ship on the front of the car. So I think it works. There are some close up(ish) pictures on www.redrival.com/tamora/ and as Eric Morecambe used to say “you can’t see the join”
Cheers,
Nick

nubbin

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Thursday 20th June 2002
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Hi, Nick - it's not so bad. As I mentioned on the Tamora thread, my repair shop want to repaint the whole front end, including the bonnet - so I'm getting rid of the black vents and leading bonnet edge. They will have to blend in the paint on the wings, which means some particularly nasty scratches on the top edge of the nearside wing need re-doing as well. All in all, best part of £1000 worth of respray, all for the cost of a bag of compost! (I was leaving B+Q at the time!) I reckon I will have the Armourfend after all.

BTW, nice photos of your car - and you really cannot see the join at all, and I imagine your red bull blue would be quite sensitive to light refraction changes.

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grigio alloy

122 posts

278 months

Friday 21st June 2002
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Brisser,
No real problem with RHD in Germany. Overtaking lorries can sometimes be a little tricky as I have to pull out quite a long way onto the `wrong´ side of the road to see past them. With cars they are obviously not as wide/high.
Once the preparation part of overtaking has been accomplished the actual overtaking act tends to be dealt with fairly quickly-although my Tamora at least does not seem that quick below 5000rpm and at 1700 miles I have yet to go above 6000rpm.
Go for it! Get your TVR!

nubbin

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6,809 posts

294 months

Friday 21st June 2002
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Grigio, have you got some piccies to post up? Take some really close up shots of the Armourfend lines - I want to see where it ends etc. e-mail me off line if you like (through my profile). i think I'm going to go for it, even though I'm skint after paying for my holiday. If the God's smile and give me a free respray, I suppose I should make the most of the oportunity!

grigio alloy

122 posts

278 months

Friday 21st June 2002
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Nubbin,
I will try and get a few pictures done next week-I will have to borrow a digital camera.
Another subject-I seem to be getting a horrible vibration type of noise from the back of the car. It may be the heat shield rubbing against the diffusor.Have you any tips on what I should check/tighten?
Bummer about England.