Tale of Two Factories
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Olivera

Original Poster:

8,739 posts

268 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Two contrasting factories:

TVR Blackpool:




McLaren Cars:




After viewing these I'm amazed TVR is still in existence.

chaparral

965 posts

288 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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You've forgotten to post the picture of the McLaren factory.

Bodo

12,586 posts

295 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Olivera said:
Two contrasting factories:

TVR Blackpool:

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McLaren Cars:

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After viewing these I'm amazed TVR is still in existence.
One of them is a small company bound to make profit and needs to earn the living of its employees; the other one is a large corporate group's marketing-designed playground intended to steer their image into a certain direction. A theme for press photo opportunities

_DJ_

5,057 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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I reckon the 'TVR Factory 2006 pictures' will make a more favourable comparison if what I hear about the new owners plans is true.

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Exx

217 posts

270 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Los Angeles said:
"From untidy desks not crisp suits come great cars." -LA in his first posting.

My Name Is LA and I approve This message.


You still need to get out more - or stop smoking weed!

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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I have to agree with LA, the top two photos are prime examples of part of the character that goes into these great cars.

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

313 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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HSE would have a field day going by the first pic.

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Forcing everyone into corporate submission can only lead to corporate mindless cars created by consensus rather than passion. Give me an untidy desk any day!

gary_tholl

1,013 posts

299 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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The floors are nice and shiny, but how do they actually do any work??

Gary


>> Edited by gary_tholl on Wednesday 15th September 20:17

supaspark

2,105 posts

267 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Nicholas Blair said:
HSE would have a field day going by the first pic.


You can jump onto the euro hub of 'No horse play' watch your 'Tripping hazards' and 'PPE for England' but we do it a bit different in the UK, just go and check Rolls Royce works1 out in derby, just the same as TVR's factory and they make the best jet engines in the world - don't knock the way we do it in the UK because we are unique. Its all getting too serious!

taimar78

681 posts

291 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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How often have you taken your car to a garage with really capable mechanics who do excellent work, but it is a dark, grungy space? One should be more concerned with the quality of the work than with the total cleanliness of the space. Agreed, TVR has some strides to make in overall quality control but having spotless floors and work spaces is not always indicative of perfection of product.

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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taimar78 said:
How often have you taken your car to a garage with really capable mechanics who do excellent work, but it is a dark, grungy space? One should be more concerned with the quality of the work than with the total cleanliness of the space. Agreed, TVR has some strides to make in overall quality control but having spotless floors and work spaces is not always indicative of perfection of product.
Too right, if you can employ someone or spare the time to make the place spotless you're either charging to high, or have too little work to do, neither of which are a good sign.

Mind you, I wouldn't apply the same criteria to a restaurant

manek

2,978 posts

313 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Not sure it's all as cut and dried as that.

Example: you want to buy a car. You see two cars, one is shiny and has clearly had a lot of attention paid to it. The other is scruffy.

You buy the shiny one because it suggests that the odds are that the owner has applied the same level of attention to the bits of the car that you can't see. You can't be sure of course but you're playing the percentage game.

Same with garages (within reason). Which would you really have service your motor? The guys who don't care about the environment they work in, and who might as well use the first bolt they come across, or those who are organised and can both locate and fit the right components of the right quality?

yellow peril

5,131 posts

301 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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IMO the picture comparisons are extremely unfair....

There are two completely different parts of the process being looked at there.....you cannot possibly compare them.

...//P//

jacko lah

3,297 posts

278 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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After 18 years as a manufacturing engineer in the automotive industry, I have developed a sure fire way of deciding whether a company gives a stuff about it's workers or not.

That is to find the Toilet Block Furthest away from the MD's office and see if it's clean and works and has a good supply of arse wipe tissue and soap and hand lotion.
It don't have to be new, just clean and tidy.

If you find one that's perfect let me know ! and I'll apply to work there.

supaspark

2,105 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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manek said:

Same with garages (within reason). Which would you really have service your motor? The guys who don't care about the environment they work in, and who might as well use the first bolt they come across, or those who are organised and can both locate and fit the right components of the right quality?


Have you not heard about organised chaos, you know where the right bolt is its on the floor near the fridge full of spray cans and sour milk!

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Clock the photo's on the wall at TVR.
The people who built the cars put them there-not the PR team.
Think that's called pride.

YAHOO

341 posts

305 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Thats my car on the wall :-)