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2much

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3 posts

268 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Anyone know anything about this car? saw it a while back and thought it looked good, and now it's up for sale just when I'm in the market for one, any thoughts from on the mods that have been done?

www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=30506&s=1

any thoughts appreciated.

>>> Edited by 2much on Saturday 9th October 19:01

Apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Looks good and price is way low, but.....throttle bodies, plenum, bigger throttle bodies? don't understand

Stevie Mojo

1,520 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Stunning and cheap!

SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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By increasing TB size on NA HC cars, you can gain a few extra horses and better TB response... The plenum will be a better flowing design for the said larger TB's... basically this car will be breathing way better than standard chims... meaning - she'll be burning more fuel and probably have a quicker time to 150... maybe knock off around a whole second or two...

pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Has it got ahole in the chassis or something

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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2much said:
Anyone know anything about this car?


Try the owner who posts on here, his PH login name is on the advert.

mustard

6,992 posts

274 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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last 6 weeks Chim's seem to have been in free fall, loads of good looking cars around £12k, where as prior to that only early and rough cars were at this figure

shnozz

30,627 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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wasnt it for sale only a few weeks back for £18k? big price drop...

lovely car.

shnozz

30,627 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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mustard said:
last 6 weeks Chim's seem to have been in free fall, loads of good looking cars around £12k, where as prior to that only early and rough cars were at this figure


yep, true enough. Mind you, good looking in a picture can sometimes be misleading. I have read several stories on PH recently of too good to be true cars. And they have turned out to be.....

mustard

6,992 posts

274 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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shnozz said:

mustard said:
last 6 weeks Chim's seem to have been in free fall, loads of good looking cars around £12k, where as prior to that only early and rough cars were at this figure



yep, true enough. Mind you, good looking in a picture can sometimes be misleading. I have read several stories on PH recently of too good to be true cars. And they have turned out to be.....


All quite true, but following the general pattern of prices there has been a definate drop (some of which will no doubt be recovered come next spring)

shnozz

30,627 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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mustard said:

shnozz said:


mustard said:
last 6 weeks Chim's seem to have been in free fall, loads of good looking cars around £12k, where as prior to that only early and rough cars were at this figure




yep, true enough. Mind you, good looking in a picture can sometimes be misleading. I have read several stories on PH recently of too good to be true cars. And they have turned out to be.....



All quite true, but following the general pattern of prices there has been a definate drop (some of which will no doubt be recovered come next spring)


I agree. In the (TVR based) trade mumblings have been heard that the poor summer has meant a nose dive in cabrio prices. Not sure if you have noticed the same thing?

mustard

6,992 posts

274 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Elises took their 'big hit' the start of the year when Lotus realigneed new car prices with the introduction of 111R.

At the other end of the spectrum, new Saab 9-3 convertibles, demand was very stong in march, but non-existant in sept.

shnozz

30,627 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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talking of 111Rs, went out in the Fish's new one last weekend and very impressive. Very impressive indeed.

Would like to think values will rise again on the TVRs next spring, dont think chims will dip much lower because of the strong residuals on the S. If chim prices dip further, I think its more than likely S prices will suffer as well. And seeing as thats the 2 TVRs parked outside my house thats a situation I would rather not see happen

tovey

43 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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i think the prices will continue to fall as the price of tuscans, t350, tamoras and creberas have all come down, this does have a knock on affect on older models, its only the griff that is stable at the moment just look in the ads lovely cars at knock down prices and soon we will be into a new year where the cars will be another year older. Good for buyers bad for sellers.

mustard

6,992 posts

274 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Yep agree, 'S' values will be affected by Chim values, biggest thing counting against Chim's is the sheer volumes of them around, which means folk can be very selective, if its not the 'right' colour (subjective I know, but some are definately more saleable than others), mileage (yes i know the supposed benefits on buying one thats been 'used') but 90% of buyers would prefer the lower mileage car, number of owners, service history etc etc.

If a car falls foul of any of the above then its going to have to be priced right to be sold (ie cheap).

Griffs on the other hand being much rarer seem to be holding up better (but the value of chim's will still have some effect, they will only fetch soo much of a premium over chims).

Two biggest factors effecting a used car's value are volume (supply and demand) and image.

If one or other (or both) weaken then values suffer, Audi TTs have suffered big time this year, due to a weakening image, and large amounts of used ones coming onto the market.

Biggest thing that will affect values of the 'new wave' TVR's is the maintenace 'issues', who the hell in a few years to me is going to pay £12-£15k for a Tuscan etc to be faced with a possible £6k during ownership?


>> Edited by mustard on Saturday 9th October 21:14

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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This is funny, I was just aboutto post how strong the Griffith Prices are looking at the Moment.
My Insurance is due soon so have been looking to see what sort of value it is worth, I have been very surprised how much they are being Advertised for.
Ok there isnt as many about as the Chimp and are probably/maybe going to be more of Classic In the future( IMHO )

BB

pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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mustard said:
Yep agree, 'S' values will be affected by Chim values,


The only thing in favour of the "S" are cheapish running costs (talking V6)

tovey

43 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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BB i agree on the classic status of the griff,i bet in the not so near future a 2001 griff is going to be worth more than my 2001 tuscan, but i just had to get it out of my system(only time will tell, so far so good)

shnozz

30,627 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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tovey said:
BB i agree on the classic status of the griff,i bet in the not so near future a 2001 griff is going to be worth more than my 2001 tuscan, but i just had to get it out of my system(only time will tell, so far so good)


i would say they already have - you'll pay £30k for a LE last edition griff. How much for a 01 tusc? £25k?

johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Saturday 9th October 2004
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Given I've just bought some Nitrons and some larger front brakes I can confirm with those wheels, plenum work etc there has been a minimum of 4k spend on upgrades, that's a minimum.

That's a whole heap of car, for a very low price.