Wheeler Dealers Heads Up tonight - Cerbera
Wheeler Dealers Heads Up tonight - Cerbera
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V41LEY

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3,007 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Repeated tonight on Disc Turbo (Ch 524) at 11pm for those who haven't seen it.
(Alpine at 10pm which I haven't seen before).

350Matt

3,880 posts

305 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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blimey
they went to town on that didn't they

I was watching it thinking that'll clean up alright with a wire brush and some paint ( well some welding was needed )
not it must have a new chassis/ wishbones etc

did a nice job though - though I had to laugh at the 'if it looks right its probably OK' comment when referring to the suspension setup

and to be honest a bit underpriced, with that level of work it was worth 15K at least

Edited by 350Matt on Monday 5th January 22:50

phazed

22,457 posts

230 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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I loved the, "I made 1,100 quid"!

He seemed to forget the weeks of labour, what a plum. Do they think we're idiots?

Enjoyed the programme though.

prideaux

4,974 posts

175 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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phazed said:
I loved the, "I made 1,100 quid"!

He seemed to forget the weeks of labour, what a plum. Do they think we're idiots?

Enjoyed the programme though.
When I was talking to Mike I brought that up and they don't count Labour as the idea of the Program is to only include specialist Labour that you cant do yourself in a well equipped garage at home.
Whoever bought that car got a good deal
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phazed

22,457 posts

230 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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prideaux said:
phazed said:
I loved the, "I made 1,100 quid"!

He seemed to forget the weeks of labour, what a plum. Do they think we're idiots?

Enjoyed the programme though.
When I was talking to Mike I brought that up and they don't count Labour as the idea of the Program is to only include specialist Labour that you cant do yourself in a well equipped garage at home.
Whoever bought that car got a good deal
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Ah, ok, got that smile

mk1fan

10,871 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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prideaux said:
When I was talking to Mike I brought that up and they don't count Labour as the idea of the Program is to only include specialist Labour that you cant do yourself in a well equipped garage at home.
Whoever bought that car got a good deal
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I too first thought it odd not to include the big man's labour. This changed after thinking that they are trying to show what a home mechanic could do. Very few people have a value for their own time. So I get where Mr Brewer is coming from.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

166 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Tbh I've warmed to that pair a bit. They used to grate on me but I'm not so critical now. I do agree that the suspension geometry is a bit more involved than looking right.

All in all, I think the programme was a pretty good way of showing people what worst-case-scenario looks like with regards to chassis condition and that it's really not that bad. I keep reading comments in the wider PH forums from people who think they would like a TVR but are afraid of rust because such a big deal is made of it. The fact that the only thing that rusts is made from tube and can be refreshed to better-than-new for Wheeler Dealers money needs to get out there more before people afraid of rust buy in to old monocoque bodied steel cars made from double or tripple skinned specialist pressings all rusting away merrily which requires a total bare metal strip down and thousands of hours of skilled labour to restore to a good standard.

Wheeler Dealers showed that a TVR body could be lifted off the chassis at home and with a bit of simple welding, a shotblast and a coat it's all ready to bolt back together at home.

That can only be a good thing for potential TVR owners to know IMHO smile

prideaux

4,974 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
Tbh I've warmed to that pair a bit. They used to grate on me but I'm not so critical now. I do agree that the suspension geometry is a bit more involved than looking right.

All in all, I think the programme was a pretty good way of showing people what worst-case-scenario looks like with regards to chassis condition and that it's really not that bad. I keep reading comments in the wider PH forums from people who think they would like a TVR but are afraid of rust because such a big deal is made of it. The fact that the only thing that rusts is made from tube and can be refreshed to better-than-new for Wheeler Dealers money needs to get out there more before people afraid of rust buy in to old monocoque bodied steel cars made from double or tripple skinned specialist pressings all rusting away merrily which requires a total bare metal strip down and thousands of hours of skilled labour to restore to a good standard.

Wheeler Dealers showed that a TVR body could be lifted off the chassis at home and with a bit of simple welding, a shotblast and a coat it's all ready to bolt back together at home.

That can only be a good thing for potential TVR owners to know IMHO smile
If you look at how the Pre 80s cars get restored sometimes from a pile of bits with a chassis that's sometimes shot it takes time research dedication but in the end a better than new car rolls out of the Garage the later cars are no different even written off later cars that are stored will one day be fully restoration project for someone
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Nick Brough

380 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Used to wonder about the labour costs as well. From minute 4.55 Mike Brewer explins why they don't include labour charges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHLkMJ_d9Lc

Nick