No TVR is Thatcham approved
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thought this might be of interest to the larger group.
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It's true though. The Chim and Griff Bible carries a statement from Thatcham stating that although a Thatcham 1 alarm is installed the car does not carry that certification. Something to do with the internal sensor I believe. This certification is more than the electronics. It's also that professionalism of the install and the ability of the protected environment to make use of the safety provided.
raceboy said:Nope it's true - I don't think any open top cars are actually Thatcham Type 1 compliant.
Bit of a swepping statement headline, do you work for the tabloids 
I think you'll find mine is approved Thatcham Cat 1, mainly due to the fitting of a Clifford all singing all dancing noise maker
This one is going to go round and round. I thought it was common knowledge that TVR's did not qualify for cat 1 certification. It's not about the internal sensor type. Mine is a microwave sensor, it still fails to qualify.
All TVR alarms were fitted by TVR. TVR are not certified fitters. Thatcham require that qualified fitters carryout the work. I don't how they can get certification if Thatcham installation requirements have been compromised.
>> Edited by tvrbob on Wednesday 26th January 19:30
All TVR alarms were fitted by TVR. TVR are not certified fitters. Thatcham require that qualified fitters carryout the work. I don't how they can get certification if Thatcham installation requirements have been compromised.
>> Edited by tvrbob on Wednesday 26th January 19:30
tvrbob said:It will go round and round because it seems everyone knows it's correct yet there are many views on why it's the case. Certainly when I visited the factory during the build of my Griffith I was told it was due to the microwave sensor, so that's what I've always assumed to be the case. Rich...
This one is going to go round and round. I thought it was common knowledge that TVR's did not qualify for cat 1 certification. It's not about the internal sensor type. Mine is a microwave sensor, it still fails to qualify.
All TVR alarms were fitted by TVR. TVR are not certified fitters. Thatcham require that qualified fitters carryout the work. I don't how they can get certification if Thatcham installation requirements have been compromised.
I think most of the TVR specific insurers (Mannings, Peart and so on) are aware that TVRs aren't Thatcham approved. As long as you don't claim it is and as long as you can get a good quote, what's the problem?
Most normal insurance companies are useless when it comes to TVRs anyway:
Me: It's a Griffith 500
Insurance: With the 4.4 litre engine.
Me: No, with a 5 litre engine.
Insurance: No, it can't be a 5 litre, it must be a 3.9 or 4.4.
Another company:
Me: It's a Griffith 500
Insurace: Is that the coupe or the convertible
Me: Convertible, there is no Griffith 500 coupe
Insurance: Yes there is, it's here on my system
Me: Would sir like a small wager?
>> Edited by IPAddis on Thursday 27th January 13:25
Most normal insurance companies are useless when it comes to TVRs anyway:
Me: It's a Griffith 500
Insurance: With the 4.4 litre engine.
Me: No, with a 5 litre engine.
Insurance: No, it can't be a 5 litre, it must be a 3.9 or 4.4.
Another company:
Me: It's a Griffith 500
Insurace: Is that the coupe or the convertible
Me: Convertible, there is no Griffith 500 coupe
Insurance: Yes there is, it's here on my system
Me: Would sir like a small wager?
>> Edited by IPAddis on Thursday 27th January 13:25
Update : after explaining my problem with insurance to TVR they write me this letter to use.
"
Please take this as confirmation that all TVR's manufactured from september 1998 are fitted with the Meta M99T2 alarm system.
The alam comprises of two units linked together, the M99T2 alarm contol unit with battery backed siren and the M36T2 immobilser along with the M23T2 microwave sensor.
This system will bring TVR's in line with european anti-theft regulation 95/56.
The M36T2 and M99T2 are Thatcham cat 1 approved article if fitted by a Thatcham apporved installer. Please note TVR are not approved installers.
Yours faithfully
Mrs Lesley Rawles
TVR Service Department.
"
Now I ask you what a bloody stupid useless letter to write to help me. The fourth paragraph should read.
"We'd like to be very careful to cover our ass, and make sure we negate any benefit you may gain from having an alarm by fitting it using untrained monkeys, cos we couldn't be bothered to become accredited"
Needless to say I threw it in the bin, as anyone with half a brain would know that sending that to an insurance company is just asking for trouble.
Good Advice from Lanciachris, I tend to build a kill switch into my cars, but this is just about getting a insurance.
"
Please take this as confirmation that all TVR's manufactured from september 1998 are fitted with the Meta M99T2 alarm system.
The alam comprises of two units linked together, the M99T2 alarm contol unit with battery backed siren and the M36T2 immobilser along with the M23T2 microwave sensor.
This system will bring TVR's in line with european anti-theft regulation 95/56.
The M36T2 and M99T2 are Thatcham cat 1 approved article if fitted by a Thatcham apporved installer. Please note TVR are not approved installers.
Yours faithfully
Mrs Lesley Rawles
TVR Service Department.
"
Now I ask you what a bloody stupid useless letter to write to help me. The fourth paragraph should read.
"We'd like to be very careful to cover our ass, and make sure we negate any benefit you may gain from having an alarm by fitting it using untrained monkeys, cos we couldn't be bothered to become accredited"
Needless to say I threw it in the bin, as anyone with half a brain would know that sending that to an insurance company is just asking for trouble.
Good Advice from Lanciachris, I tend to build a kill switch into my cars, but this is just about getting a insurance.
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