Waxoyling Chassis
Discussion
PJC said:
I want to get the chassis on my Chimaera waxoyled and wondered if anyone could recommend a company in Kent that could do this and roughly what I should pay - any help appreciated.
Paul
Paul I used the local dealer in Larkfield. They did an excellent job considering it looked like it had never been done before, cleaned it all off, painted and then Waxoiled, looks really good, I was really pleased with the result! As this was the first time it cost me a bit more and they said it would be cheaper next time.
If you want to be sure the waxing has got to all the parts you are worried about, the only way is to do it yourself. Garages normally use a spray gun to apply the waxoil. No way that's going to go around corners. Do it yourself with a long bristle brush so you can reach the tops of the outriggers then apply spray to the visible surfaces.
Just make sure that whoever you use does the job properly, some people just steam clean and spray on waxoyl which is a big no-no!
It's much better to do it yourself, I know it's an arse but take your time clean the chassis, wire brush any rust/flaking paint then paint any exposed metal with Hammerite then waxoyl.
It's much better to do it yourself, I know it's an arse but take your time clean the chassis, wire brush any rust/flaking paint then paint any exposed metal with Hammerite then waxoyl.
Not sure whether the spray gun was faulty, or it was too cold. Only cost me about £25. 
Rich...I too did my own - If you're spraying, mask the exhaust pipes and manifolds, thin the Waxoil with White Spirit, and when brushing on, heat the can in a bucket of hot water.
Clean off all flaking rust and paint, wire brush the bare metal/flaking rust, then I used Jenolite (twice), Finnigan's No1 and finally a couple of coats of Hammerite.
Pay particular attention to front wishbones and the outriggers where they get peppered by stones from the wheels - put plenty of waxoil on these parts.
Clean off all flaking rust and paint, wire brush the bare metal/flaking rust, then I used Jenolite (twice), Finnigan's No1 and finally a couple of coats of Hammerite.
Pay particular attention to front wishbones and the outriggers where they get peppered by stones from the wheels - put plenty of waxoil on these parts.
OK, whats everyones opinion of this.
Mine was Waxoyled 2 years ago and still seems to be well covered (a by product of low mileage and dry use I guess). There was though some minor corrosion on the upper wishbones and outriggers so I have cleaned these up and painted with POR-15. Since the waxoyle is still covering most of the Chassis and is pretty thick so I can't see whats happening beneath it, is it worth cleaning the lot off and starting again (yuk! job) or just go for applying another layer of the stuff. I have cleaned it off a couple of obvious areas such as behind the front wheels and everything looks good.
Puff
Mine was Waxoyled 2 years ago and still seems to be well covered (a by product of low mileage and dry use I guess). There was though some minor corrosion on the upper wishbones and outriggers so I have cleaned these up and painted with POR-15. Since the waxoyle is still covering most of the Chassis and is pretty thick so I can't see whats happening beneath it, is it worth cleaning the lot off and starting again (yuk! job) or just go for applying another layer of the stuff. I have cleaned it off a couple of obvious areas such as behind the front wheels and everything looks good.
Puff
puffsorted said:
OK, whats everyones opinion of this.
Mine was Waxoyled 2 years ago and still seems to be well covered (a by product of low mileage and dry use I guess). There was though some minor corrosion on the upper wishbones and outriggers so I have cleaned these up and painted with POR-15. Since the waxoyle is still covering most of the Chassis and is pretty thick so I can't see whats happening beneath it, is it worth cleaning the lot off and starting again (yuk! job) or just go for applying another layer of the stuff. I have cleaned it off a couple of obvious areas such as behind the front wheels and everything looks good.
Puff
IMO, if it looks good behind the wheels and the wishbones are still covered in the stuff (most critical areas), then I'd leave it. Mine's the same - the main chassis rails don't come in for much in the way of punishment - so apart from the occasional touch-up as and when required, you should be ok.
wolosp said:Agreed. I find the obligatory engine oil leaks look after the main chassis section. I only concern myself with the outriggers, wheelarch members and the wishbones.
IMO, if it looks good behind the wheels and the wishbones are still covered in the stuff (most critical areas), then I'd leave it. Mine's the same - the main chassis rails don't come in for much in the way of punishment - so apart from the occasional touch-up as and when required, you should be ok.
wolosp said:
I too did my own - If you're spraying, mask the exhaust pipes and manifolds, thin the Waxoil with White Spirit, and when brushing on, heat the can in a bucket of hot water.
Clean off all flaking rust and paint, wire brush the bare metal/flaking rust, then I used Jenolite (twice), Finnigan's No1 and finally a couple of coats of Hammerite.
Pay particular attention to front wishbones and the outriggers where they get peppered by stones from the wheels - put plenty of waxoil on these parts.
Spot on there, I did the same process though I have just spent the best part of 2 1/2 weeks of evenings and Saturdays wire brushing, chipping, scraping the chassis though much of the time was spent unbolting the body to raise a couple of inches to give it a good once over. Certainly worth it to access those hidden bits where I found some major corrosion under all the mud etc, the rest is perfect. Anyway just about there body back on chassis last night with new rubber mounts and with all this snow about I guess a DIY job will help pass the time LOL
PJC said:
Thanks for all the posts. Having had a couple of quotes for £250 - £300 to clean, paint and waxoyl I am seriously considering having a go myself based on the info given here - particularly as I currently have use of a car lift. What is POR-15?
I wouldn't post 'that you have use of a car lift' on here - you could suddenly find yourself aquiring many 'friends' (ohh and Gillingham not that far from me and mine could use a Waxoyle
) POR-15 is a rust prevention paint that esentially works by creating a air tight seal - and rust can't form without air! Its very very tough and a lot of people on here swear by it. Certainly after painting my Upper Wishbones with it there is no sign of any corrosion returning. It can be obtained from www.frost.co.uk.
Puff
PJC said:I did mine one Saturday. I equipped myself with 4 x axle stands and all the stuff I needed, wire-brush, Hammerite & thinners, Wayoyle, buckets, sprayer etc. and it wasn't as bad as I expected. In fact once the car is up and the wheels are off it's a good chance to have a poke round underneath and see what's going on. I didn't worry about it being a work of art because who's going to see it!
Thanks for all the posts... I am seriously considering having a go myself...
Rich...PJC said:Very good and very difficult. This stuff is designed to bond to metal and may not bond perfectly to smoothrite. It also needs a wax and oil free surface. I'm sure it's still good even if you can't meet the stringent preparation requirements. I wonder though, when applied to a less clean and painted surface, is it then any better than smoothrite Jenolite and waxoil.
What is POR-15?
great q&A on here should answer all your questions
http://prp-porshop.com/porstordosan.html
>> Edited by spivvy on Thursday 24th February 18:33
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