Should we ban non TVRs from the 1/4 mile wiki?
Poll: Should we ban non TVRs from the 1/4 mile wiki?
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Discussion
Been looking at the TVR 1/4 mile wiki posted above and thinking I haven't been controversial enough recently. But in truth it is a complete disincentive for anyone to fettle a TVR for the pod as they will never be anywhere near the top compared to just bunging an American engine in.
There are so many Santa pod comparison websites that it just seems a shame to have a TVR specific one there on a TVR forum with a bunch of kit cars at the top of the tree.
So the question is. Leave it, watch all the original engine TVRs pushed off the list as more and more cars simply don't bother to stay with the original engine as they get old, till no one remembers the original cars or their performance.
Perhaps wait for the first person to stick a jet engine in a TVR, or a Saturn five rocket engine to top the list?
Or vote to have the wiki amended to show what an actual TVR is capable of?
Obviously a line needs to be drawn, but I would say it should roughly be drawn the same place that the DVLA draw the line for Q plates vs originals. It would be very difficult to have a car certified as original through the DVLA with a totally different engine to normal so LS engines would likely be Qplate. Turbocharging and supercharging an original engine okay, boring out the cylinders okay.
In fact forget the Qplate as likely some bright spark is going to say their car is not on a Qplate with an alternative engine so Q plate is probably a bad example, but you get the idea.
Should TVR stand as original or are the LS engines simply progress?
There are so many Santa pod comparison websites that it just seems a shame to have a TVR specific one there on a TVR forum with a bunch of kit cars at the top of the tree.
So the question is. Leave it, watch all the original engine TVRs pushed off the list as more and more cars simply don't bother to stay with the original engine as they get old, till no one remembers the original cars or their performance.
Perhaps wait for the first person to stick a jet engine in a TVR, or a Saturn five rocket engine to top the list?
Or vote to have the wiki amended to show what an actual TVR is capable of?
Obviously a line needs to be drawn, but I would say it should roughly be drawn the same place that the DVLA draw the line for Q plates vs originals. It would be very difficult to have a car certified as original through the DVLA with a totally different engine to normal so LS engines would likely be Qplate. Turbocharging and supercharging an original engine okay, boring out the cylinders okay.
In fact forget the Qplate as likely some bright spark is going to say their car is not on a Qplate with an alternative engine so Q plate is probably a bad example, but you get the idea.
Should TVR stand as original or are the LS engines simply progress?
Same as Longbows home rebuilt 4.2; 12.175s seems pretty good me...spitfire4v8 said:
I still find it hilariously brilliant that Cyclone's 11.9 still puts him 8th on that list when you read the spec of some of the slower cars. 
happy days.
His 11.9 was actually stunning. Which was actually one of the reasons I posted. Did he have drag wheels on or summat? happy days.Aren't there already categories to differentiate between stock & modified?
TVR has always been about pushing the boundaries.
Full marks to anyone racing their TVR, whether bog standard or fitted with an anti-gravity warp drive i-Scream matter transference device.
As long as we know the baselines for comparisons, due kudos can be given to all for their efforts.
TVR has always been about pushing the boundaries.
Full marks to anyone racing their TVR, whether bog standard or fitted with an anti-gravity warp drive i-Scream matter transference device.
As long as we know the baselines for comparisons, due kudos can be given to all for their efforts.
Hi
I started the 1/4 mile wiki out of interest to see what individuals had achieved in their TVRs at the dragstrips.
I am heavily into drag racing mine and Brummmies LS Cerbera was top of the list from the start. If it wasn't for his car there I wouldn't have pushed mine over years of blood sweat and tears to eventually gain top place by just 0.01 of a second.
Modifications including LS engines etc are clearly stated. Why dismiss these from the list and not the Forced induction cars or mine for using nitrous oxide?
The list will stay with all engines included.
Maybe I can work out a way to highlight each group or maybe add columns for place in the group.
Open to suggestions but strongly against removing any that are on there already.
I started the 1/4 mile wiki out of interest to see what individuals had achieved in their TVRs at the dragstrips.
I am heavily into drag racing mine and Brummmies LS Cerbera was top of the list from the start. If it wasn't for his car there I wouldn't have pushed mine over years of blood sweat and tears to eventually gain top place by just 0.01 of a second.
Modifications including LS engines etc are clearly stated. Why dismiss these from the list and not the Forced induction cars or mine for using nitrous oxide?
The list will stay with all engines included.
Maybe I can work out a way to highlight each group or maybe add columns for place in the group.
Open to suggestions but strongly against removing any that are on there already.
Heretic! Burn Him!!!I understand were you are coming from and my time is very near the bottom of the table in my lowly standard Griff 500 but I say leave as is. I like seeing all the oddball stuff and in my mind as long as is still has a TVR chassis, body and a bloody big engine it is still a TVR. People have spent an awful lot of time and money modding their Tivs it would seem a shame to remove them from the list.
Will be interesting to keep a single lost going when the new TVR comes out as well!
Will be interesting to keep a single lost going when the new TVR comes out as well!
DangerousDerek said:
Hi
I started the 1/4 mile wiki out of interest to see what individuals had achieved in their TVRs at the dragstrips.
I am heavily into drag racing mine and Brummmies LS Cerbera was top of the list from the start. If it wasn't for his car there I wouldn't have pushed mine over years of blood sweat and tears to eventually gain top place by just 0.01 of a second.
Modifications including LS engines etc are clearly stated. Why dismiss these from the list and not the Forced induction cars or mine for using nitrous oxide?
The list will stay with all engines included.
Maybe I can work out a way to highlight each group or maybe add columns for place in the group.
Open to suggestions but strongly against removing any that are on there already.
The whole point is in your first sentence I started the 1/4 mile wiki out of interest to see what individuals had achieved in their TVRs at the dragstrips.
I am heavily into drag racing mine and Brummmies LS Cerbera was top of the list from the start. If it wasn't for his car there I wouldn't have pushed mine over years of blood sweat and tears to eventually gain top place by just 0.01 of a second.
Modifications including LS engines etc are clearly stated. Why dismiss these from the list and not the Forced induction cars or mine for using nitrous oxide?
The list will stay with all engines included.
Maybe I can work out a way to highlight each group or maybe add columns for place in the group.
Open to suggestions but strongly against removing any that are on there already.
DangerousDerek said:
"What individuals achieved in their TVR's"
What's a TVR?DangerousDerek said:
The list will stay with all engines included.
Well that seems to be decided then. 
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Lastly, when the next LS engine comes out with 50bhp more, and you aren't able to wring another 50bhp out of your TVR engine, will you LS as well, and if not why not?
In my opinion all Are TVRs.
I guess a wiki is a shared thing but I did start this one and included all.
Why want to change mine?
Feel free to start your own or copy edit and paste mine with those you want to see in yours.
As for my own car I always planned to go LS or similar at some point, maybe next year. This has nothing to do with my opinion on the wiki. I am proud to be top for now with a rover V8. But for my personal gains I want to move on in my own drag racing circles. I have goals and another 50 bhp wont come close.
I guess a wiki is a shared thing but I did start this one and included all.
Why want to change mine?
Feel free to start your own or copy edit and paste mine with those you want to see in yours.
As for my own car I always planned to go LS or similar at some point, maybe next year. This has nothing to do with my opinion on the wiki. I am proud to be top for now with a rover V8. But for my personal gains I want to move on in my own drag racing circles. I have goals and another 50 bhp wont come close.
julian64 said:
Lastly, when the next LS engine comes out with 50bhp more, and you aren't able to wring another 50bhp out of your TVR engine, will you LS as well, and if not why not?
People have screwed 700+ from the Rv8 with some turbos, LS, ajp, Merc, bmw etc..... doesn't matter what you got nearly all engines are capable of making power with turbos, sc's it's getting it down that counts 
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