No plate flash spray
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Eddie 4.2

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1,996 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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Does anyone know if this anti-flash spray works on the number plates.
Thought i would ask before i go to silly mode.

Thanks Eddie 4.2

satman

2,455 posts

275 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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It does to some degree, but bearing in mind, that a lot of speed cameras now have an alternative to 'flash', (infared if im not mistaken...), and no amount of 'refective-spray' will work with that!

Eddie 4.2

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1,996 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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thanks paddy i think ill turn off silly mode could be costly

flyingjase

3,095 posts

260 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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It doesn't work, check out:-

www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/platespray.htm



Eddie 4.2

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Sunday 27th February 2005
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thanks jason good link

TVR-Phoenix

719 posts

259 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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get the letters cut out of very thin sketching paper and stick them on the back of the plate with a thin photographic film sealing the lot up... the plate plastic should be a special plastic which contains zinc particles.... put a small fillament heater behind the plate.... will cost a bit to get this up and working... but once done... you've got a camera proof number plate.... oh and dont forget to add a bit of reflective powder sandwiched between the photographic film and plastic... some kind of photon reaction takes place which results in a cloud-esque image which looks like trash... but also, infra-red picks up the heated zinc particles rather than the text itself...
dont know if this has been proven, but got the info from some very clever chaps....

chimburt

751 posts

288 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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any chance of you asking those clever chaps where on earth you'd get transparent plastic impregnated with zinc particles, and reflective powder. do you have to put it all in the oven at gas mark 4?

sorry - but what's the science behind this?

Eddie 4.2

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Sunday 27th February 2005
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IT A STAR TREK THING

boosted ls1

21,200 posts

289 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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flyingjase said:
It doesn't work, check out:-

www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/platespray.htm




That's what they say over here but in the US they say the opposite and suggest it does work. I'm keeping an open mind on this. It won't work with truvelo but maybe it might work with rear mounted gatso? On the other hand a bit of mud is bound to work for forward/rearward traps of any type.

Boosted.

Eddie 4.2

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266 months

Sunday 27th February 2005
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thanks my good man,Mud it is

TVR-Phoenix

719 posts

259 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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chimburt said:
any chance of you asking those clever chaps where on earth you'd get transparent plastic impregnated with zinc particles, and reflective powder. do you have to put it all in the oven at gas mark 4?

sorry - but what's the science behind this?



If I knew, many sites all over the net discuss all kinds of ideas from something viable to something quantum leaps away... I dont even know if it works... anyone care to do the science and see if it works?

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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All these systems (which don't work incidentally) have one drawback - under car headlamps, they exhibit the same effect.

So, get followed by BiB at night, and get pulled, and fined.

chimleic

254 posts

265 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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name said:
but also, infra-red picks up the heated zinc particles rather than the text itself


Do you think they could arrange the particles in order to spell something different? Perhaps a little message of commiseration to the Speed Camera people?

mcspreader

328 posts

290 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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The hot zinc won't work. Well not without flaming the No plate. Speed cameras with IR detectors work in the near infra red. Thermal imagers work in a completely different frequency band. The main point of IR detection such as on SPECS/Truvelo cameras is to read the plate without flash so as not to blind oncoming drivers. An IR illuminator (The boxes either side of the camera on SPECS) uses light outside the visible spectrum to light up the plate for the camera which is capable of imaging A LITTLE outside the visible spectrum but the temperature needed for the plate to radiate actively in this part of the spectrum is several hundred degrees.

True thermal imagers capable of resolving something as detailed as a No plate at ambient temperatures would have to be physically very large and would cost an astronomical amount of money (beyond the profit making capacity of the Scamera perhaps?), you may recall seeing the blobby green glow of some thieving turd being pursued by police taken from the imagers on their helicopters and shown on grimewatch(sic).

Retroreflective materials generally work in the near infra red as well as visible spectra.

jem

548 posts

269 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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and you'll get nicked for dodgy plates under the speed limit as well as above.

J

flintstone

8,644 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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Eddie 4.2 said:
thanks my good man,Mud it is


I happen to have a garden full of special mud and am prepared to sell you some.

I'll even throw in the gourd.

Eddie 4.2

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266 months

Monday 28th February 2005
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flintstone said:

Eddie 4.2 said:
thanks my good man,Mud it is



I happen to have a garden full of special mud and am prepared to sell you some.

I'll even throw in the gourd.



Thank u my good man,Do you take cash

FrenchTVR

1,844 posts

296 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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parrot of doom said:
All these systems (which don't work incidentally) have one drawback - under car headlamps, they exhibit the same effect.

So, get followed by BiB at night, and get pulled, and fined.


A real Policeman, in a car, at night ..........
.........never going to happen these days, is it?

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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If you really want to avoid the scameras, just run around without any plates. probably unwise around town, but when was the last time anyone saw a cop out of town? it's very rare around nottingham. oh, and it's only £30 non endorsable fine

have to say, I don't do this but if I was driving to london and wanted to avoid the congestion charge....

TVR-Phoenix

719 posts

259 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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It'd be bit of a blob to explain how "both" came off without you noticing? Probably get charged for driving without due care and attention and negligence and all that... which I believe can put you behind for a few months in its extremest form...