RE: Driven: TVR Sagaris
RE: Driven: TVR Sagaris
Friday 18th March 2005

Driven: TVR Sagaris

Early impressions of the new TVR are hugely positive


In the spirit of enquiry without which PistonHeads would not be the place it is, your intrepid reporter, PH editor Manek Dubash, took a test drive of the new TVR Sagaris, courtesy of E Sussex TVR dealer Dream Machines, with the aim of bringing you first impressions. We drove the vivid green machine back to back against a Tamora, just to compare the old style TVR with the new.

While the Tamora/T350 setup is exciting to drive, the example we drove was not one that took to a moment's inattention kindly. Although much fun, full attention was required at all times.

The Sagaris on the other hand has all the excitement, and more, of the earlier car but with a much more mature attitude. Although we had only 20 minutes or so in the car, what was clear was that a hugely positive difference was made by the suspension, the power-assisted steering setup -- and by the noise.

Without losing any feel or the aggressive, go-kart-like turn-in, the 195mph Sagaris feels planted on the road. Where the Tamora would go snuffling in the gutters at the slightest excuse, the solidly screwed-together Sagaris would have none of it, and was happy to drive in a straight line unless provoked by the driver.

It felt more compliant too, though without loss of feel, making for a more comfortable ride. And that's despite the spring rates being three times stiffer than the Tamora's. The brakes too are worthy of the car, with plenty of modulation possible and as much retardation as you need.

You could imagine crossing continents in the Sagaris, where you might think twice -- three times -- before undertaking the same exercise in the Tamora/T350.

And then there's the noise. TVR has tuned the exhaust perfectly, with plenty of pops and bangs on the overrun, and a lightweight flywheel contributing to its ability to issue peremptory barks of throttle blip when changing down. On the move it sounds smooth but with a classic TVR rumble; this car is the one to convert the V8 die-hards. The performance is of course, everything we've come to expect of TVR's 400bhp Straight Six, highly suited as it is to the Sagaris' long-travel go pedal, with 0-60mph coming up in under four seconds.

As for the styling, that's down to personal preference. For this reporter, the car could do with losing some of the overly-busy styling, especially the now-redundant front wheel-arch corrugations, and return to the something closer to flowing lines of the 1990s cars. But that's only one person's opinion...

TVR has got it right with the Sagaris. Let's hope this is the start of a permanent upsurge in the sometimes patchy history of the Blackpool tiger.

www.dreammachines.org.uk/

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Well done PH!

Particularly as I understand that the dealers are embargoed with regard to letting journos drive the car until April!!

DodgeyRog

2,025 posts

289 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Check this out!!!

www.racinggreentvr.com/models/sagaris.asp

Its Racing Greens drive through the back roads and some of London. I just played this to the office and most of us were in stitches!!!! What a way to go, i love the bit through the town, those people on the pavement can't believe it either.

Well done Racing Green, loved it.

peanutjb

956 posts

275 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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I want one even more after seeing that video. It looks quite sublime, and sounds it too! Those people's reactions say it all really!

obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

269 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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didnt work.....

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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The link to the video is a bit dodgy - doesn't work in my browsers.

A direct link is here

www.racinggreencars.com

obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

269 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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thanks ted

door

713 posts

267 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Great vid', gets you in the mood for Le Mans

washy

950 posts

305 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Fantastic video. Very impressed!

ricardinho

540 posts

291 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Phwwwwooooar! What a totally classy machine. Gorgeous colour. I'm completely sold on it. I've started saving. I don't care how long it takes, but I'm going to get one. I feel like I did when I was a boy and saw the wedges at the motor show

A well constructed video too! Well done to Racing Green!

>> Edited by ricardinho on Friday 18th March 12:17

julianc

1,984 posts

288 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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[quote] You could imagine crossing continents in the Sagaris, where you might think twice -- three times -- before undertaking the same exercise in the Tamora/T350. [/quote]

Rubbish, IMHO. We drove from NW England to the south of France, NW Italy, Switzerland and back in the Tamora last year. A great experience having only thought of it once!

Julian

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

259 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Oooooooh gimme gimme gimme gimme......

That looks fantastic!

And agreed, a brilliant video by Racing Green, though lets hope plod doesn't get hold of the footaqe of it sliding through the streets...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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DodgeyRog said:
Check this out!!!

www.racinggreentvr.com/models/sagaris.asp





Brilliant!

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Looks good, although I'm a tad sceptical about 195mph

RosCabezas

118 posts

282 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Definitely, not for shy people.

BT52

599 posts

302 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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"You could imagine crossing continents in the Sagaris, where you might think twice -- three times -- before undertaking the same exercise in the Tamora/T350. "


Am I the only one who is confused by this?
I thought the Sagaris was supposed to be the no-compromise raw track focused experience and the T350 more the soft GT.

Sounds like they are completely the wrong way round.

Mark

luca brazzi

3,983 posts

294 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Some background on the video:

Produced for Racing Green TVR by PHer Gruffy, with a couple of assistants, and a top driver.

Here are some more direct links (File Save As...)

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VHigh Qual .wmv (24,665 Kb .wmv)- www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/Racing_Green_Sagaris_vhigh.wmv
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High Qual .wmv (15,672 Kb .wmv)- www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/Racing_Green_Sagaris_high.wmv
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Med Qual .wmv (11,089 Kb .wmv)-
www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/Racing_Green_Sagaris_med.wmv
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Low - Qual .wmv (4,491 Kb .wmv)- www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/Racing_Green_Sagaris_low.wmv
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Hi Qual .mov (29,686 Kb .mov)- www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/sagaris_large.mov
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Low Qual .mov (9,011 Kb .mov)- www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/sagaris_small.mov

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Hi Qual .mpg (24,316 Kb) - www.sleepy-fish.com/images/videos/TVRs/sagaris_promo.mpg
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For those of you at the open weekend at Racing Green, you'll have seen this on DVD. For those that know nothing about it...boy are you in for a treat

Shot a couple of weeks ago on the roads in the south, central London, and a test track, its an awesome demonstration and visualisation of TVR's latest creation.

Trust me, you will not be disappointed....I loved it, and I know you will.

Perhaps Gruffy and Racing Green would like to add some words to sum up their input to the short film, and what they think of the car (about 400 miles done on the day of shooting).

Regards
LB

>> Edited by luca brazzi on Friday 18th March 17:03

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

283 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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BT52 said:
"You could imagine crossing continents in the Sagaris, where you might think twice -- three times -- before undertaking the same exercise in the Tamora/T350. "


Am I the only one who is confused by this?
I thought the Sagaris was supposed to be the no-compromise raw track focused experience and the T350 more the soft GT.

Sounds like they are completely the wrong way round.

Mark


It's odd, but true. The Sagaris feels much more planted and really very easy to drive (though I didn't push it on the test drive). It feels like you're driving it, and not the other way around as is the case with some of the earlier models.

I've heard comments that the '05 T350's and Tamoras feel similar but I don't know of a dealer with a '05 t350 demo that I can test the theory out at!

D

GregE240

10,857 posts

296 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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What a fantastic video.

That must have taken some shooting.

The looks on peoples faces....particularly when it goes round the corner in the village and the bloke runs for another look.

First class!

roadsweeper

3,789 posts

303 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Fantastic - great work everyone involved.

Gusto

608 posts

262 months

Friday 18th March 2005
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Anyone able to switch the vid to MPEG?