500 limited edition?
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2 Smokin Barrels said:
I've heard a rumour that the 500 limited edition for each model is no more. I was looking forward to getting a little plaque in my Tamora
They couldn't sell that many
I heard they dropped the 500 limit as the T350 is selling like there's no tomorrow and it would have been silly to stop production with such a great demand.
I was going to start a post about this, as the first I heard about it was at Peter Smith Sports Cars on Monday. I was told that they were only going to produce 500 of each model (with the 3 year warranty, 18" spiders, etc.) and then cease production of everything except the Tuscan II and (presumably) bring out a new model(s).
Can anyone confirm this?
Can anyone confirm this?
blackmonday said:hence the reason they laid so many off recently
I heard they dropped the 500 limit as the T350 is selling like there's no tomorrow and it would have been silly to stop production with such a great demand.
.they need a f
g good kick up the ass,or tvr will cease to be,imho.mongoose said:
I heard they dropped the 500 limit as the T350 is selling like there's no tomorrow and it would have been silly to stop production with such a great demand.
hence the reason they laid so many off recently
Thats absolute bollox.
I was at the factory recently (after the "lay offs") and it was absolutely buzzing. Around 40 Sagari and Tuscan 2's in final assembly (only 1 T350 so I'd doubt that is the reason) and a very positive feeling about the place.
2 great new models, a 3 year warranty in place and sales seem to be very strong. The build quality of the new cars is excellent. I'd say things have never been more positive.
unrepentant said:if sales are very strong,then why the lay offs in the first place?i wouldnt expect to see any less cars in assembly either(i suppose you know how long theyd been there?),not when theyve just launched the sagaris and would be hoping for some orders.the three year warranty is a great thing i agree,but judging by recent new buyers experiences on here it doesnt look like the quality has improved that much-certainly not enough anyway.you can be the eternal optimist if you like,and nobody more than me would like them to succeed and prosper,but their approach so far hasnt convinced me one bit.they need to focus on their customer service,dealer network,quality control and design,and if they would say what theyve done to improve reliability it might help
Thats absolute bollox.
I was at the factory recently (after the "lay offs") and it was absolutely buzzing. Around 40 Sagari and Tuscan 2's in final assembly (only 1 T350 so I'd doubt that is the reason) and a very positive feeling about the place.
2 great new models, a 3 year warranty in place and sales seem to be very strong. The build quality of the new cars is excellent. I'd say things have never been more positive.
.im not naieve enough to believe that a new 3yr warranty automatically makes everything better. Life is sometimes too short to disagree with people’s views but having just come back to TVR and loving everything it stands for I feel I need to comment.
1. All cars have faults. Especially sports cars which we all drive hard, use and most of us can admit to abusing from time to time. Ask the Porsche guys about failing RMS seals and £8K rebuild costs - and this is with a recon engine financially supported by the factory !!!
2. There is no doubt TVR needed to improve things - in the older cars things just dropped off and no matter how cheap a car is this is not acceptable. This I believe they have done and if you buy a proper car FROM A GOOD DEALER they will make sure the car is right. Then its up to YOU to look after it. If you buy an abused car out of Autotrader no matter Porsche TVR or Ferrari you are in for an expensive and rough ride. It’s worth remembering some of the cars and their problems detailed on this board are such examples. Having hung around the Porsche guys for the last 9 years there is rarely a new Porsche which does not have to go back for one reason or another. The difference is not all Porsche drivers are enthusiasts and read Pistonheads. Also the TVR fault picking will never ever be shaken. People will always pick holes in the cars as for a long time they were so poor.
3. There is a new owner. This will always cause an amount of concern and inevitable change. Hopefully most for the better. As someone who has bought and sold businesses I can tell you now the first thing I do is look for the surplus resource and dead wood and get rid of it ASAP. You cannot build a new team and change the direction of the 'ocean liner' while they are still aboard. I know it is people’s livelihoods we are talking about but I suspect a lot of the 90 had been with TVR for sometime so it would of actually cost the company money to make them redundant rather than saved the company money in the short term.
4. Since Nic took over TVR have launched 2 new models, introduced a 3-year warranty, committed to a London showroom and from an outsider looking in have got dealers to commit to the brand or move on. Not bad in just 12 months.
5. I am sure we feel we could all do better when brochures are not available or handbooks are not on time. But I will say this. TVR is more than one person and therefore maybe it's more of a culture thing that needs to be changed to make sure the whole team are swimming in the same direction which again cannot be done overnight.
6. Anyway enough from me – I started to sound like I’m in a meeting at work. I just wanted to say that criticism AND credit need to be given and people need to look at the wider picture not just at a little piece of gossip or news. Finally, I too have been to the factory recently and would say I saw more cars nearing completion and shipment than I have ever seen. And with the Sagaris reviews, strong T350 following and Tuscan I owners being tempted to upgrade to Tuscan II surely the future for even more sales can only be good.
I know I am going to regret being drawn on this issue but hey I've got nothing on this weekend......[small]
>> Edited by CMJ on Friday 1st April 19:22
1. All cars have faults. Especially sports cars which we all drive hard, use and most of us can admit to abusing from time to time. Ask the Porsche guys about failing RMS seals and £8K rebuild costs - and this is with a recon engine financially supported by the factory !!!
2. There is no doubt TVR needed to improve things - in the older cars things just dropped off and no matter how cheap a car is this is not acceptable. This I believe they have done and if you buy a proper car FROM A GOOD DEALER they will make sure the car is right. Then its up to YOU to look after it. If you buy an abused car out of Autotrader no matter Porsche TVR or Ferrari you are in for an expensive and rough ride. It’s worth remembering some of the cars and their problems detailed on this board are such examples. Having hung around the Porsche guys for the last 9 years there is rarely a new Porsche which does not have to go back for one reason or another. The difference is not all Porsche drivers are enthusiasts and read Pistonheads. Also the TVR fault picking will never ever be shaken. People will always pick holes in the cars as for a long time they were so poor.
3. There is a new owner. This will always cause an amount of concern and inevitable change. Hopefully most for the better. As someone who has bought and sold businesses I can tell you now the first thing I do is look for the surplus resource and dead wood and get rid of it ASAP. You cannot build a new team and change the direction of the 'ocean liner' while they are still aboard. I know it is people’s livelihoods we are talking about but I suspect a lot of the 90 had been with TVR for sometime so it would of actually cost the company money to make them redundant rather than saved the company money in the short term.
4. Since Nic took over TVR have launched 2 new models, introduced a 3-year warranty, committed to a London showroom and from an outsider looking in have got dealers to commit to the brand or move on. Not bad in just 12 months.
5. I am sure we feel we could all do better when brochures are not available or handbooks are not on time. But I will say this. TVR is more than one person and therefore maybe it's more of a culture thing that needs to be changed to make sure the whole team are swimming in the same direction which again cannot be done overnight.
6. Anyway enough from me – I started to sound like I’m in a meeting at work. I just wanted to say that criticism AND credit need to be given and people need to look at the wider picture not just at a little piece of gossip or news. Finally, I too have been to the factory recently and would say I saw more cars nearing completion and shipment than I have ever seen. And with the Sagaris reviews, strong T350 following and Tuscan I owners being tempted to upgrade to Tuscan II surely the future for even more sales can only be good.
I know I am going to regret being drawn on this issue but hey I've got nothing on this weekend......[small]
>> Edited by CMJ on Friday 1st April 19:22
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