TVR back to LM.........
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Strong rumours floating about that TVR are tied in to Rebellion in LMP1 for the new season!
Official announcement due tomorrow!
https://twitter.com/dsceditor/status/9815756083155...
Official announcement due tomorrow!
https://twitter.com/dsceditor/status/9815756083155...
Edited by ellroy on Wednesday 4th April 18:15
https://www.motul.com/gb/en/news/group-partners/tv...
So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
S6PNJ said:
https://www.motul.com/gb/en/news/group-partners/tv...
So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
Does it matter.. marketing, brand awareness. This is all very positive.. looking forward to when they do one make series.. So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
S6PNJ said:
https://www.motul.com/gb/en/news/group-partners/tv...
So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
Does it matter.. marketing, brand awareness. This is all very positive.. looking forward to when they do one make series.. So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
BJWoods said:
S6PNJ said:
https://www.motul.com/gb/en/news/group-partners/tv...
So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
Does it matter.. marketing, brand awareness. This is all very positive.. looking forward to when they do one make series.. So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
What does competing in LMP1 contribute to TVR
Marketing genius. Who cares how much contribution TVR have actually made, with LMP1 being such a small field of cars it's a likely strong position for a car with the company logo plastered all over it- those who know better will be fully aware that the car is about as much developed by TVR as I am related to Tom Cruise, but it'll raise brand awareness for those who don't. Great move.
Plus it gives me a reason to actually give a s
t about endurance racing again 
Plus it gives me a reason to actually give a s
t about endurance racing again Edited by CanoeSniffer on Thursday 5th April 10:04
I find this quite amusing - a company who have nothing but an effectively dead brand name and some photos of a car largely made out of other cars are using different cars again to go racing with (actually just slapping a sticker on em - but hey - racing!).
"Racing improves the breed" - you need a breed to start with tho and you need to race YOUR breed not just borrow a horse and say it's yours.
I've not been a naysayer on the 'TVR Relaunch' upto now but this strikes me as desperate and a bit sad. If they need to promote the brand, why did they buy it instead of making a new one in the first place??
If you're making a car - get on with it and make it - if you want to race that car, do that by all means
This all said, resurrecting long-dead brands and slapping them into other cars has not, historically, ended well for anyone?
p.s. have these people taken deposits from anyone and, if so, do we think those people feel their money is being used wisely?
"Racing improves the breed" - you need a breed to start with tho and you need to race YOUR breed not just borrow a horse and say it's yours.
I've not been a naysayer on the 'TVR Relaunch' upto now but this strikes me as desperate and a bit sad. If they need to promote the brand, why did they buy it instead of making a new one in the first place??
If you're making a car - get on with it and make it - if you want to race that car, do that by all means
This all said, resurrecting long-dead brands and slapping them into other cars has not, historically, ended well for anyone?
p.s. have these people taken deposits from anyone and, if so, do we think those people feel their money is being used wisely?
Edited by 406dogvan on Thursday 5th April 10:14
BJWoods said:
S6PNJ said:
https://www.motul.com/gb/en/news/group-partners/tv...
So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
My thoughts exactly. They are contributing money. Nothing more. It's a rather cynical branding exercise for any manufacturer to sponsor a racing team in which they have no technical involvement. To me it simply says - "we'd like to compete but we don't have any expertise or a product to do it with." Aston Martin RedBull is entirely the same as is Alfa Romeo Sauber. So what exactly are TVR contributing to Rebellion Racing? Chassis (nope), Engine (nope), Manpower (possibly) or what else? some spanners?
I think it is a clever move.
Those who disagree with badging: Look at Alfa Romeo and Aston Martin in F1. Same story.
I still hope they will do an own racing car of sorts and compete against other manufacturers. I like one brand series, but the current close cockpit competition is in GT3, GT4 and to some extent GTE. Also depends if you want a full factory outfit or do customer racing and how much you are able and willing to invest.
Those who disagree with badging: Look at Alfa Romeo and Aston Martin in F1. Same story.
I still hope they will do an own racing car of sorts and compete against other manufacturers. I like one brand series, but the current close cockpit competition is in GT3, GT4 and to some extent GTE. Also depends if you want a full factory outfit or do customer racing and how much you are able and willing to invest.
I should probably know better than to try and be positive here, but how about:
1. TVR has already said it will go back to Le Mans with the new Griffith. Makes perfect sense that, beforehand, they would want to gain first hand, up-to-date experience of racing there, of team dynamics, of likely future requirements, basically of everything they're going to need to understand/ know when assembling the TVR Racing team over the next couple of years. Why would you go there cold if you could warm up first?
2. Since the new car is not yet ready to go racing, this is an overt demonstration and statement of intent. It tells the world "TVR is coming back here." This has significant marketing value.
3. This is a well proven strategy in other classes, and it works. Aston Martin's sponsorship of Red Bull is just one current (and very good) example. Alfa Romeo and Maserati are doing similar things, as are others.
There are numerous benefits to this exercise, and it seems completely logical. TVR seems to be acting in a measured, calculated way - building for the long term, and doing it properly. Frankly, it's hard to see a downside, but no doubt it won't be long before someone 'corrects' me ;
1. TVR has already said it will go back to Le Mans with the new Griffith. Makes perfect sense that, beforehand, they would want to gain first hand, up-to-date experience of racing there, of team dynamics, of likely future requirements, basically of everything they're going to need to understand/ know when assembling the TVR Racing team over the next couple of years. Why would you go there cold if you could warm up first?
2. Since the new car is not yet ready to go racing, this is an overt demonstration and statement of intent. It tells the world "TVR is coming back here." This has significant marketing value.
3. This is a well proven strategy in other classes, and it works. Aston Martin's sponsorship of Red Bull is just one current (and very good) example. Alfa Romeo and Maserati are doing similar things, as are others.
There are numerous benefits to this exercise, and it seems completely logical. TVR seems to be acting in a measured, calculated way - building for the long term, and doing it properly. Frankly, it's hard to see a downside, but no doubt it won't be long before someone 'corrects' me ;
SportsCarLover said:
I should probably know better than to try and be positive here, but how about:
1. TVR has already said it will go back to Le Mans with the new Griffith. Makes perfect sense that, beforehand, they would want to gain first hand, up-to-date experience of racing there, of team dynamics, of likely future requirements, basically of everything they're going to need to understand/ know when assembling the TVR Racing team over the next couple of years. Why would you go there cold if you could warm up first?
2. Since the new car is not yet ready to go racing, this is an overt demonstration and statement of intent. It tells the world "TVR is coming back here." This has significant marketing value.
3. This is a well proven strategy in other classes, and it works. Aston Martin's sponsorship of Red Bull is just one current (and very good) example. Alfa Romeo and Maserati are doing similar things, as are others.
There are numerous benefits to this exercise, and it seems completely logical. TVR seems to be acting in a measured, calculated way - building for the long term, and doing it properly. Frankly, it's hard to see a downside, but no doubt it won't be long before someone 'corrects' me ;
Completely agree. 1. TVR has already said it will go back to Le Mans with the new Griffith. Makes perfect sense that, beforehand, they would want to gain first hand, up-to-date experience of racing there, of team dynamics, of likely future requirements, basically of everything they're going to need to understand/ know when assembling the TVR Racing team over the next couple of years. Why would you go there cold if you could warm up first?
2. Since the new car is not yet ready to go racing, this is an overt demonstration and statement of intent. It tells the world "TVR is coming back here." This has significant marketing value.
3. This is a well proven strategy in other classes, and it works. Aston Martin's sponsorship of Red Bull is just one current (and very good) example. Alfa Romeo and Maserati are doing similar things, as are others.
There are numerous benefits to this exercise, and it seems completely logical. TVR seems to be acting in a measured, calculated way - building for the long term, and doing it properly. Frankly, it's hard to see a downside, but no doubt it won't be long before someone 'corrects' me ;
SportsCarLover said:
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I'd go with that.That is assuming TVR staff are actively involved in the team rather than just giving them £ for stickers / brand awareness.
For the uninitiated (i.e. like me..) is the Oreca R-13 any good? Do they stand a reasonable chance of getting a decent placing?
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