TVR factory
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donjonmaster

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170 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Morning all, does anyone know what progress being made with new Griff factory in Wales? I had a lightbulb moment over my slice of toast this morning and thought why not use the Honda facility I’m Swindon? Complete fantasy or not? Maybe TVR could help themselves and the employees and obviously being Honda builders, quality control would never be an issue!!!

Johnniem

2,732 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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I would imagine that the Honda factory may well need complete re-tooling (at a very significant cost) before it could produce any TVRs. Maybe the building could be useful but it may be far too large, given that Honda is a large scale manufacturer. Nice idea but probably not.

donjonmaster

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100 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Honda could/should cough up towards any costs. It seems crazy to build a new factory when Swindon building and workforce going begging.....

Steve_D

13,801 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Can't see TVR needing 370 acres to build a few cars compared to Honda output at over 1/4 million a year.

Steve

Johnniem

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244 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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donjonmaster said:
Honda could/should cough up towards any costs. It seems crazy to build a new factory when Swindon building and workforce going begging.....
Why on earth should Honda do that?

donjonmaster

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100 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Just an idea to mitigate job losses and speed up Griff launch!!

Monkeylegend

28,238 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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donjonmaster said:
Just an idea to mitigate job losses and speed up Griff launch!!
There's an issue with scale as said.

TVR would probably only need the canteen or the toilet block, assuming they have the money.

Honda are closing in 2021, I doubt if TVR will be ready by then smile

Edited by Monkeylegend on Tuesday 19th February 13:04

donjonmaster

Original Poster:

100 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Point taken. How about a Civic/Griff mash up?

Monkeylegend

28,238 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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I suppose Les could ask Honda if they have any spare parts TVR could use.

Byker28i

82,295 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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I think I've seen this idea in about 4 different places. The honda site is huge, probably the better place would be many of the warehouses or supplier business surrounding the site as Honda wanted all spulliers/stock to be within an hour. They didn't hold stock themselves.

TVR factory was being built in Ebbw Vale because of the subsidies offered by the EU (until brexit) and the Welsh Government.

The EU plowed money into Ebbw vale, being an area of poverty. They turned the old steeleworks into “The Works” , a flagship £350m regeneration project funded by the EU redevelopment fund that houses the £33.5m Coleg Gwent, where the EU fund Welsh apprenticeships.
They paid out £30m for the new train station and railway line, £80m improvement to the Heads of the Valley road and the town center had £12m for various upgrades and improvements.

I can't see Swindon/the government providing any sort of incentives for Swindon.

phillpot

17,435 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Could be a spare car factory in Solihull soon................. getmecoat

PuffsBack

2,442 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
Honda are closing in 2021, I doubt if TVR will be ready by then smile

Edited by Monkeylegend on Tuesday 19th February 13:04
LOL!!!

BeastMaster

443 posts

208 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Believe the factory has stalled – as it was a lot of EU money being used for the build, it is a requirement that the building contract be tendered from the EU, a process which could take a year to complete and an oversight which was not considered.

But because of the design ( I Stream ) it should be possible to build the car in a pop up factory which could be quickly set up in any space.
My understanding is that the later is the option being considered for the first batch, but this is also delayed due to supplies not yet being ready.

Steve_D

13,801 posts

279 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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BeastMaster said:
................ but this is also delayed due to supplies not yet being ready.
TVR have, in the past, been much criticised for 'parts bin design' but it is this very supply situation that makes 'parts bin' a valid option.

Steve

Edited by Steve_D on Sunday 24th February 14:54

Monkeylegend

28,238 posts

252 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Sourcing parts for a few cars each year can't be the easiest and most economical way of doing things so parts bin must be the most favourable option so you can coat tail one of the bigger manufacturers.

Having everything bespoke or making things in-house must have enormous cost and QC ramifications, as TVR found out in the past.