Genuine Factory Griffith 4.3BV Value?
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I've been contemplating this genuine Griff 4.3BV for sale at TVR101 for sometime now but can't decide if it's a fair price or not Griff 4.3BV
In it's defence its had a full body off chassis refurbishment with many new chassis bits at the same time, and of course factory 4.3BVs are very rare.
On the negative side, to my knowledge the engine and gearbox have never been rebuilt, the paintwork is original and tatty as is the interior and hood.
Given the chassis is like new to me it would make sense to bring the rest of the car up to the same standard, so ballpark estimates would be £10K for paint, interior and hood, and £5K for Powers engine and gearbox rebuild. Which makes it a £45K pre-cat.
So my question really is, can the tatty paint and interior, and original 27 year old engine justify a £30K price tag?
In it's defence its had a full body off chassis refurbishment with many new chassis bits at the same time, and of course factory 4.3BVs are very rare.
On the negative side, to my knowledge the engine and gearbox have never been rebuilt, the paintwork is original and tatty as is the interior and hood.
Given the chassis is like new to me it would make sense to bring the rest of the car up to the same standard, so ballpark estimates would be £10K for paint, interior and hood, and £5K for Powers engine and gearbox rebuild. Which makes it a £45K pre-cat.
So my question really is, can the tatty paint and interior, and original 27 year old engine justify a £30K price tag?
Does it “need the work”
Mine is similar in that it has had the chassis job but is on original paint work, trim and mechanical’s
Sure, it would benefit from a spray and trim, but it is perfectly presentable as it is. When it starts to look tired, I will do something about it.
The engine, gearbox and diff are all original and not rebuilt. They all operate correctly and when they don’t, then I will address this.
It may well be that the car the OP is talking about doesn’t “need” an extra £15k spending on it. Although nothing stopping someone doing that if they wish.
At the end of the day it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.
Mine is similar in that it has had the chassis job but is on original paint work, trim and mechanical’s
Sure, it would benefit from a spray and trim, but it is perfectly presentable as it is. When it starts to look tired, I will do something about it.
The engine, gearbox and diff are all original and not rebuilt. They all operate correctly and when they don’t, then I will address this.
It may well be that the car the OP is talking about doesn’t “need” an extra £15k spending on it. Although nothing stopping someone doing that if they wish.
At the end of the day it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.
It's obviously a case of you see is what you get, but why go to the extremes of a full body off chassis job without reconditioning the main mechanical components (engine/gearbox/diff). In my simple minds eye, it's looks a bit half hearted.
Or was it a job done to keep the car on the road for a lot more years and replace/recondition the components when needs must. A rolling restoration!
Looking at the Plenum 4.3 Badge, that just an oversized stick on - not as original, so what's the rest of it like.
Or was it a job done to keep the car on the road for a lot more years and replace/recondition the components when needs must. A rolling restoration!
Looking at the Plenum 4.3 Badge, that just an oversized stick on - not as original, so what's the rest of it like.
I'm useless at valuing cars which is why I never do it for customers, but that seems bonkers high!
Also if you can get an engine and box rebuild for 5 k I'd love to know where. I reckon you should budget double that.
The car only makes sense if you can do all the refurb work yourself, otherwise it's looking very very expensive to me. In fact even if you *can* do it all yourself it's still looking expensive.
Also if you can get an engine and box rebuild for 5 k I'd love to know where. I reckon you should budget double that.
The car only makes sense if you can do all the refurb work yourself, otherwise it's looking very very expensive to me. In fact even if you *can* do it all yourself it's still looking expensive.
MikeE said:
I've been contemplating this genuine Griff 4.3BV for sale at TVR101 for sometime now but can't decide if it's a fair price or not Griff 4.3BV
In it's defence its had a full body off chassis refurbishment with many new chassis bits at the same time, and of course factory 4.3BVs are very rare.
On the negative side, to my knowledge the engine and gearbox have never been rebuilt, the paintwork is original and tatty as is the interior and hood.
Given the chassis is like new to me it would make sense to bring the rest of the car up to the same standard, so ballpark estimates would be £10K for paint, interior and hood, and £5K for Powers engine and gearbox rebuild. Which makes it a £45K pre-cat.
So my question really is, can the tatty paint and interior, and original 27 year old engine justify a £30K price tag?
Mike, PM sentIn it's defence its had a full body off chassis refurbishment with many new chassis bits at the same time, and of course factory 4.3BVs are very rare.
On the negative side, to my knowledge the engine and gearbox have never been rebuilt, the paintwork is original and tatty as is the interior and hood.
Given the chassis is like new to me it would make sense to bring the rest of the car up to the same standard, so ballpark estimates would be £10K for paint, interior and hood, and £5K for Powers engine and gearbox rebuild. Which makes it a £45K pre-cat.
So my question really is, can the tatty paint and interior, and original 27 year old engine justify a £30K price tag?
phazed said:
For that money you can get an excellent 5.0 and no doubt the Serpentine engine as well.
I'm not so sure there's much value in having the serpentine front end. Fernies seems to think it's an essential but for the rest of us it's more a case of swings and roundabouts. The 5.0 engine, however, is to an extent fundamentally compromised. I'd take a 4.3 or 450 over it any day of the week.
900T-R said:
I'm not so sure there's much value in having the serpentine front end. Fernies seems to think it's an essential but for the rest of us it's more a case of swings and roundabouts.
The 5.0 engine, however, is to an extent fundamentally compromised. I'd take a 4.3 or 450 over it any day of the week.
What's a broken crank, a mere challenge!The 5.0 engine, however, is to an extent fundamentally compromised. I'd take a 4.3 or 450 over it any day of the week.
Getsis said:
Offer them what you want to pay, if they say no then walk away.
If you noticed they have reduced the T2 Convertible by 5K! they do seem to try at the beginning to see if they can milk a potential customer with new stock.
The Griff is a SOR and I presume the Tuscan is too, so it's the owners setting the asking price although guided no doubt by the dealer.If you noticed they have reduced the T2 Convertible by 5K! they do seem to try at the beginning to see if they can milk a potential customer with new stock.
I wouldn't want to pay more than £25K for it given the cost refreshing the engine and gearbox but I've already been advised the owner wouldn't take that
Holy s
t I didn't think I'd ever see one of these come up for sale, it trumps the 4.3BV I was referring to below!
Griff 4.5BV
t I didn't think I'd ever see one of these come up for sale, it trumps the 4.3BV I was referring to below!Griff 4.5BV
MikeE said:
Holy st I didn't think I'd ever see one of these come up for sale, it trumps the 4.3BV I was referring to below!
Griff 4.5BV
Wow, indeed. But does having a new short block, assuming its not now original numbers matching (rustling of anorak....), detract from its value/authenticity?t I didn't think I'd ever see one of these come up for sale, it trumps the 4.3BV I was referring to below!Griff 4.5BV
MikeE said:
Holy st I didn't think I'd ever see one of these come up for sale, it trumps the 4.3BV I was referring to below!
Griff 4.5BV
wow, never new there were 10 of this type 4.5 BV made, cool.t I didn't think I'd ever see one of these come up for sale, it trumps the 4.3BV I was referring to below!Griff 4.5BV
I owned a 4.3 BV LHD long time ago, great engine, only thing I did not like so much, the short powerband, its not like say smooth, from low to high rpm like a BMW M62B44/B46 V8, but other then that it was a fun car, even driving slowly was great with that TVR/Rover V8 music :-)
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