TVR Chimaera 450S Turbo 2000 W176EOL

TVR Chimaera 450S Turbo 2000 W176EOL

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rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I came across this one as well. Enquired about it at the end of last week but missed it as it had been sold:
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

However it was for sale @ Hairpin when I enquired about it last week:
https://www.classicandsportscar.com/classifieds/us...

Looks like the exact same car to me. Not sure when it was sold though so could have been a while ago.

I am guessing Greenside bought it trade from Hairpin trade maybe and have popped it up for sale with a price a little further north?

I would have been interested in that at a lower price but £30k is a bit more than I can justify to myself at the moment. Unless they want to give me £20k for mine!!

Anyone know anything about this one?

ianwayne

6,563 posts

274 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I'm fairly sure that first one used to be owned by 'mcdeb' on here? Put a lot of time and money into it.

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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ianwayne said:
I'm fairly sure that first one used to be owned by 'mcdeb' on here? Put a lot of time and money into it.
Thanks. Yes, indeed it is after a bit of digging. Weird it has gone from one dealer to another. Not sure what it is worth. Any ideas?

N7GTX

8,029 posts

149 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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It definitely looks like Macdeb's old car. It was the best Chimaera I've ever seen and had around 576bhp. It was usually found at major shows i.e. NEC on the TVR stand. It was as near perfect as you will ever get. The build specs are phenomenal. It is a one off car and 'ordinary' turbo ones are around £18-£24k.
As it is such a one-off, the asking price is, to me at any rate, about right.

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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N7GTX said:
It definitely looks like Macdeb's old car. It was the best Chimaera I've ever seen and had around 576bhp. It was usually found at major shows i.e. NEC on the TVR stand. It was as near perfect as you will ever get. The build specs are phenomenal. It is a one off car and 'ordinary' turbo ones are around £18-£24k.
As it is such a one-off, the asking price is, to me at any rate, about right.
Thanks. It does indeed look a cracking car. The Chevy Sportmotive Evo one seems heavy in comparison but I guess it does that the Evo chassis. ANy ideas on what cost the Evo chassis adds?

Belle427

9,673 posts

239 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I'm assuming you already have one of some kind but why don't you just send it off here if your happy with the car.
Probably save yourself some money for other work.
http://www.torquev8.com

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Belle427 said:
I'm assuming you already have one of some kind but why don't you just send it off here if your happy with the car.
Probably save yourself some money for other work.
http://www.torquev8.com
Thanks. I will take a look.

Yes I have a 1998/S Chimaera 400 in Amaranth with Speed 6 headlight conversion. I bought it from Ian @ Sportmotive last year.

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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Just revisiting this one as it looks like it is still for sale. It has been up for ale for quite a while now but I guess the market for something like this is very small.

Just trying to work out some man maths as to if this would be a crazy idea to buy @ circa £30k?! Of course it is crazy but trying to lessen the impact in my head at the moment......not currently having any success!!

http://www.greensidecars.com/cars#/new-gallery-39/

I could sell my Chimaera and my 4200 and nearly get to £30k ish with a few k. Maybe an Alfa GT 3.2 V6 Busso would make up the rest.

Question is would it be totally crazy or possibly somehow be worth anything like £30k?

TR4man

5,312 posts

180 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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As you correctly state, the market for such modified cars is very small (and that is not taking anything away from the quality of this car) but you have to think ahead of when you want to come to sell it. Could you wait months and months for the right buyer to come along without taking a big hit on what you've bought it for?

phazed

21,979 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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That is Macdebs previous car.

An absolute stunner and perfectly built! You won't find better.

As to the value, it's always down to finding the right person for the right price.

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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TR4man said:
As you correctly state, the market for such modified cars is very small (and that is not taking anything away from the quality of this car) but you have to think ahead of when you want to come to sell it. Could you wait months and months for the right buyer to come along without taking a big hit on what you've bought it for?
Agreed. It doesn't of course make an ounce of sense really.....but sometimes the best decisions happen this way!

I have no issues sitting on a car until it would sell if I ever needed to. Not sure it makes sense to have circa £30k a piece tied up in 2 cars that would sit in the garage and not be used too much though. I have a mint as new 2007 Maserati 4200 in the garage as well.

The most sense will be to keep my Chimaera of course but where is the fun in that?!

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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phazed said:
That is Macdebs previous car.

An absolute stunner and perfectly built! You won't find better.

As to the value, it's always down to finding the right person for the right price.
I have done a bit of digging and research on the car and can see it is one of the best if not the best around. Quite unique. Sold for £29k in 2017 it seems. I wonder if it has been for sale ever since? Possible. If so that would be a concern as if someone can't sell it in 2 years then either the price is too high or nobody wants to take the jump to something that manic. Maybe a bit of both.

N7GTX

8,029 posts

149 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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Macdeb is sometimes on here. He will happily tell you all you need to know. PM him - he doesn't bite, he's a really nice genuine bloke.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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N7GTX said:
Macdeb is sometimes on here. He will happily tell you all you need to know. PM him - he doesn't bite, he's a really nice genuine bloke.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...
Thanks. I'll drop him a line. I can see he came out of this and went Aston V8 Vantage 4.7 by the looks of it. I think he had the right idea as something like that seems to make much more sense.

Byker28i

67,302 posts

223 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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N7GTX said:
It definitely looks like Macdeb's old car. It was the best Chimaera I've ever seen and had around 576bhp. It was usually found at major shows i.e. NEC on the TVR stand. It was as near perfect as you will ever get. The build specs are phenomenal. It is a one off car and 'ordinary' turbo ones are around £18-£24k.
As it is such a one-off, the asking price is, to me at any rate, about right.
I'd agree with that, saw it at the NEC and it was a stunning example of what could be done. Beautiful engineering.

ianwayne

6,563 posts

274 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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I can't remember the exact figure it was advertised for by Macdeb but I think that's about a £10k (40% plus) mark-up the dealer is trying for. He may take an offer of course. smile

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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I don't doubt the car as it is clear it is very nice.

Wonder if it has had any chassis/outriggers or any respray? Or simply didn't need it as was nice and stayed nice on original chassis and paint maybe.

N7GTX

8,029 posts

149 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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rockits said:
N7GTX said:
Macdeb is sometimes on here. He will happily tell you all you need to know. PM him - he doesn't bite, he's a really nice genuine bloke.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...
Thanks. I'll drop him a line. I can see he came out of this and went Aston V8 Vantage 4.7 by the looks of it. I think he had the right idea as something like that seems to make much more sense.
TVRs are not about common sense you know....... laugh

rockits

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785 posts

168 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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I'm starting to learn that. I didn't have a great starting point as the most sensible child of the 3!

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

155 months

Saturday 10th August 2019
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ianwayne said:
I can't remember the exact figure it was advertised for by Macdeb but I think that's about a £10k (40% plus) mark-up the dealer is trying for. He may take an offer of course. smile
Correct me if my math is off but I can’t imagine Mac let that go for 22k if this chap is asking 32 it’s still a bargain as opposed to doing the job yourself for 40 wink