Valved exhaust and false cat
Valved exhaust and false cat
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Jonny TVR

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4,547 posts

298 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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Has anyone done this? Want a system that's mot compliant but decat at the touch of a button. So visually it has a cat and noise wise it has the valves on.

R8FUN

282 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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Me too please, sounds like utopia.

Belle427

10,816 posts

250 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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The Yanks use a lot an electrical valve linked to a switch in the cab which opens the exhaust up.
Maybe this is an option.

rigga

8,783 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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Mini also used a Bluetooth valve to open a straight through section that bypassed the rear silencer, but obviously it was positioned at the rear silencer. Gave a good increase in noise when wanted.
Issue you have with a similar valve to bypass the cat is
1. Cats idealy need to be as close to the exhaust ports as possible, to retain heat and work efficiently.
2 V8 engine layout (for example) makes this tricky to accomplish, maybe a cat positioned just after the Y section, with a bypass section may work, S6 engines may be easier to convert, but depending on space /fitment.

Be nice to have.

Jonny TVR

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4,547 posts

298 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Thank you. Has anyone actually done this on a TVR. You would have thought there would be one off the shelf for the various models.

Jonny TVR

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298 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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FarmyardPants

4,256 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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I think the problem will be finding the space to fit such a contraption.

PixelpeepZ4

8,600 posts

159 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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bhin rides use zoomies - you can buy them from their website, if you install these pre cat will that give you the same result?

Jon39

13,922 posts

160 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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An original equipment exhaust fitting used on Aston Martin models involves valves. It does not divert exhaust gas past a catalytic converter though (they would not be allowed to do that), but past the silencer.

There are two valves (each bank of cylinders), which are simply either open (straight through) or closed (pass through the silencer).
That alone would not meet the homologation noise rules tests, therefore there has to be a subtle factory adjustment as follows.

0 to 1500 rpm ..................... Open
1500 to about 4000rpm ..... Closed
Above 4000 rpm ................. Open

Once a car has left the new car dealer, it is up to owners what they want to do. _ wink

As you can see, quite small units. Try to find another car they are used on though. They will be cheaper.







Dollyman1850

6,322 posts

267 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Jon39 said:

An original equipment exhaust fitting used on Aston Martin models involves valves. It does not divert exhaust gas past a catalytic converter though (they would not be allowed to do that), but past the silencer.

There are two valves (each bank of cylinders), which are simply either open (straight through) or closed (pass through the silencer).
That alone would not meet the homologation noise rules tests, therefore there has to be a subtle factory adjustment as follows.

0 to 1500 rpm ..................... Open
1500 to about 4000rpm ..... Closed
Above 4000 rpm ................. Open

Once a car has left the new car dealer, it is up to owners what they want to do. _ wink

As you can see, quite small units. Try to find another car they are used on though. They will be cheaper.

They look exactly the same as those used on my old 4.8 Cayenne GTS !!
N.

Smurfsarepeopletoo

947 posts

74 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Surely if you had something that bypasses the cat, this would be something that is very visible, and would be picked up by an MOT tester?

Would it not be easier to swap the cat for the MOT, or go for a sports cat.

m4tti

5,480 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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If you run something like Syvecs, you can have multiple maps, one being an “MOT” map, that will pass emissions.

You can do what you want on the noise front then.

N7GTX

8,199 posts

160 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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m4tti said:
If you run something like Syvecs, you can have multiple maps, one being an “MOT” map, that will pass emissions.

You can do what you want on the noise front then.
I think you are confusing Syvecs with VW...... laugh

TwinKam

3,351 posts

112 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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RSTurboPaul

12,168 posts

275 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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TwinKam said:
hehe

Dominic TVRetto

1,381 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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m4tti said:
If you run something like Syvecs, you can have multiple maps, one being an “MOT” map, that will pass emissions.

You can do what you want on the noise front then.
This doesn't physically bypass the restriction of the cat though, the exhaust gas is still going through it...

Belle427

10,816 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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I would guess it’s almost impossible on a Chim/Chim to bypass any cats.
Find a friendly Mot tester. wink

Jonny TVR

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298 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Belle427 said:
I would guess it’s almost impossible on a Chim/Chim to bypass any cats.
Find a friendly Mot tester. wink
Not sure they exist these days!

nawarne

3,128 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Belle427 said:
The Yanks use a lot an electrical valve linked to a switch in the cab which opens the exhaust up.
Maybe this is an option.
Was at a track day mid-September. Chap had a '19 plate Corvette with this arrangement.

In the paddock after a session, this valve was really "rattling" as engine idled to cool down. Sounded like a bag of spanners.
Nick

m4tti

5,480 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Dominic TVRetto said:
m4tti said:
If you run something like Syvecs, you can have multiple maps, one being an “MOT” map, that will pass emissions.

You can do what you want on the noise front then.
This doesn't physically bypass the restriction of the cat though, the exhaust gas is still going through it...
The cat housing is decatted...and constructed in a less obstructive shape.