Grif/Chim. What's the big idea??
Grif/Chim. What's the big idea??
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f0rmula

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2 posts

253 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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Just curious, but does anyone know what the idea behind TVR making these two quite similar cars?

From what I can see, they both have similar engines, are both soft tops, two seaters, similar weight etc etc..

Are they simply similar cars, but different? Or is there something I'm missing :)

I'm trying to focus my saving, and it's easier knowing what I'm aiming for ;)

Thanks for any replies.

James

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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There were differences in the earlier cars I believe. Early Chimaera was softer ride, more of a road car. At some point the Chim was moved to the Grif platform and they became the same in all but body.

apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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apache said:
Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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tvrbob said:
There were differences in the earlier cars I believe. Early Chimaera was softer ride, more of a road car. At some point the Chim was moved to the Grif platform and they became the same in all but body.

Only the springs/dampers/arbs/and tyres were different. The Chim is simply a later model. What is really surprising is that the production of the G and C was allowed to run and run and run...

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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They were the wonder years! An era long gone, and very unlikely to return unless you believe in miracles!

zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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apache said:
Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?


I'd better tell that to the owner of the Griff I saw parked up at St Neots Golf club the other day.

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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You could with even more justification aim that same question to the myriad of Porcshe cars!

bjwoods

5,018 posts

313 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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f0rmula said:
Just curious, but does anyone know what the idea behind TVR making these two quite similar cars?

From what I can see, they both have similar engines, are both soft tops, two seaters, similar weight etc etc..

Are they simply similar cars, but different? Or is there something I'm missing

I'm trying to focus my saving, and it's easier knowing what I'm aiming for

Thanks for any replies.

James


Pure marketing:


Identical mechanics (some cars different damper/springs - late 500 chims identical 500 griff)

But offered chims initially in only 4.0, 4.3 guise, replacing griff 4.0/4.3's and taling the griff upmarket (supposed to have been ajp v8) but turned into the griff 500, ie bigger version of same v8 in chim's


Thus you paid your money for the same chassis/mechanicals, choose the body shape you preffered, and paid more for the engine...

Lots of tvr dealers 'sold' to new customers 4.0/4.3 (later 4.5) chims SAFE in the knowledge give it a few years and you could then Sell the same customer a 'trade' up to a griff 500, or later chim 500.

ie chim 4 was an entry level car several thousand less than a 500 model.

B

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scared but happy

24,147 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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apache said:
Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?

Funny you should say that, but after a week of owning the car and fumbling around under the seat I found a golfing tee

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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zippee said:

apache said:
Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?



I'd better tell that to the owner of the Griff I saw parked up at St Neots Golf club the other day.


He was just giving his Chimp owning friend a lift....

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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apache said:
Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?


that was just a ruse put about so that Griff owners could still feel matcho and superior even though their car was the old body style, designed whilst Ned was still practising.

dinkel

27,776 posts

287 months

Saturday 6th August 2005
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I always believed the Chim was a fast cruiser and the Griff a mory racy specced Chim . . .

AlexRWD

1,254 posts

266 months

Sunday 7th August 2005
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apache said:
Wasn't the Chim was built to cater for golfers?


Absolutely - see the first post in this thread:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=13&t=198732

Isn't the Chim boot quite a bit larger, to accomodate said golf clubs?

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Sunday 7th August 2005
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Your Right Differents Skins over Basically the Same Chassis/setup.

The Chimp came second to appeal more too people who wanted an entry Level TVR(with the 4.0,4.5) and those that wanted a less aggresive car and a more of a Grand Tourer!! and Hence "Ugly Pig No1" project was set up PMSL.

The 500's a pretty much identical underneath and performance wise and depends on driver skills to see which is better although the Griffith is Far the more attractive and a Great British Muscle Car

BB

dinkel

27,776 posts

287 months

Sunday 7th August 2005
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The Tamora comes from the Griff . . .

The Chim is a death end . . .

That's why my guess is the Cerbera Mk2 will look different . . .

My hope on a big idea is which V8 TVR'll use for that car . . .