Is this the end of the Chimaera and Cerbera?
Is this the end of the Chimaera and Cerbera?
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blackmonday

Original Poster:

554 posts

300 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Will the T400R and T440R replace the Cerbera and the Tamora and T350C replace the Chimeara?

flasher

9,281 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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I think you can say the Chimaera is gone already. Less than one a week being built now. The Cerb is still selling well though, so I think it's here to stay for a while yet..

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Chim does'nt even feature in the latest TVR brochure...

prancing

174 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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I wonder if you can ask for spare engine when you Spec up your new Tamora these days This will save your dealer ordering you a new one after a few months use. I'll have a Cerbera with a trustworthy Rover V8 5 litre, Please. Shame they don't make them at the factory. I would buy one today. The Chimeara I used to own was a great car. Long live TVR !! just test 'em a bit more before selling them.

G.

neilv

76 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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I'd be very suprised if the Cerbera was removed from the line up just now as the only other "possible" 2+2 (is that even still available) is the T4*0R and the price differential between these cars is quite large.

Neil

(family man's perspective)

Spoonman

1,085 posts

283 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Press/sales folk on the motorshow stand were adamant that the Chimera and Cerbera were staying for a while yet. But I stopped asking when they started talking about the forthcoming quicker Tamora.

flasher

9,281 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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prancing said: I wonder if you can ask for spare engine when you Spec up your new Tamora these days This will save your dealer ordering you a new one after a few months use.

G.


Oh dear... Mine is 12 months old now and done nearly 12,000 miles. Why do we have to keep harking on about reliability when a large number (the majority) have had no problems at all...

You can't have a Rover V8 anymore. That's the end of it. Time to move on....

paulk

319 posts

296 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Moving on?? Is the speed6 really the way to go? It will be a sad day when you can not buy a TVR with IMO a proper V8 engine.

Paul

griff2be

5,105 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Oh dear... Mine is 12 months old now and done nearly 12,000 miles. Why do we have to keep harking on about reliability when a large number (the majority) have had no problems at all...

You can't have a Rover V8 anymore. That's the end of it. Time to move on....


I suspect people keep harking on about reliability because it remains an issue. Improved yes. Fully solved? - maybe, maybe not. The very small number of serious engine faults reported on the Tamora forum here is still a worryingly high percentage of the, err, small number of PH Tamora owners.

Someone I spoke to at a TVR subsidiary recently said to me 'If I had a TVR I'd get a Speed Six powered one' - which I thought was an excellent and
positive endorsement of the engine. 'Yes, ' he went on to say 'that way I'd be guaranteed a free engine rebuild every 12 months'.

To be fair he did say that he thought the factory now had the Spd 6 sorted.

We all know yours has been reliable for 12 months, Flasher - but others have not been so fortunate. For the avoidance of doubt I like the Tamora and want it and the Spd 6 to succeed.

PetrolTed

34,461 posts

325 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Chimaera is featured on TVR's new website and I was told yesterday that a Griffith was spotted on the production line last week!

p7ulg

1,052 posts

305 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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paulk said: Moving on?? Is the speed6 really the way to go? It will be a sad day when you can not buy a TVR with IMO a proper V8 engine.

Paul


I agree Paul

plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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PetrolTed said: Chimaera is featured on TVR's new website and I was told yesterday that a Griffith was spotted on the production line last week!


Yep you can still order the Chim, as I was told Monday by my dealer. Also they have a brand spanking new unregistered Griff in their showroom and I thought all of them had been built and sold now.

Matt

qube

437 posts

282 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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Oh dear... Mine is 12 months old now and done nearly 12,000 miles. Why do we have to keep harking on about reliability when a large number (the majority) have had no problems at all...

You can't have a Rover V8 anymore. That's the end of it. Time to move Umm....


12000 miles is nothing for an engine built today by now it should only be run in, i like the tamora and don't want to call it all the the names going but the large number (the majority) probably haven't done more than 10000 miles yet as tvr's go, let's wait and see what happens when the car reaches about 50000 miles as this would be a more accurate sign of the tell tale reliability and i hope that they are all problem free.

nubbin

6,809 posts

300 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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paulk said: Moving on?? Is the speed6 really the way to go? It will be a sad day when you can not buy a TVR with IMO a proper V8 engine.

Paul


Sorry, I don't agree - the Rover V8 is underpowered, heavy, too torquey for safety, when your right foot is the only safety aid, and is a Rover engine.

At least the Sp6 is a TVR engine - and TVR have used all sorts of engines in the past. Is there anything else people want to criticise TVR over? Personally, I am filled with admiration for the ballsy engineering and sheer defiance TVR have shown in producing a range of their own engines, from a tiny manufacturing and customer base. In forty years, we'll (hopefully) be looking at TVR as the doyen of independent British car makers, and saying, "at least it's a TVR engine and TVR body through and through." Jeez, give the guys a break!!

And where does the AJPV8 fit in the "no TVR V8" argument?

steve-p

1,448 posts

304 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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And where does the AJPV8 fit in the "no TVR V8" argument?


It's got a flat plane crank so it doesn't sound like a real one. The simple truth of the matter is that the Rover V8 engined cars put TVR on the map, and a significant part of what drew many people in initially was the great soundtrack. I dare say there would be much less criticism if they built a traditional V8.

griff2be

5,105 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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I think everyone is full of admiration for TVR producing their own engines - I certainly am.

Concern about engine reliability (i.e. if I buy one am I going to face a big bill for an engine rebuild after the warranty expires?) should be mistaken for TVR bashing.

Incidentally, the 'Rover' V8 is actually a Buick engine if you trace it right back.

craigalsop

1,991 posts

290 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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nubbin said:
Sorry, I don't agree - the Rover V8 is underpowered, heavy, too torquey for safety, when your right foot is the only safety aid, and is a Rover engine.
"Too torquey"? What is this "too torquey" that you speak of? Is such a thing possible?
That's the first time I've seen that used as an argument against the Rover V8. (I wasn't aware that it was particularly heavy either, but I'll let you off with underpowered)

prancing

174 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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I don't think reliability issue is one to be brushed aside, well done if your Tamora is still going strong after 12,000 miles !! I have known of lots of Tamora issues which are not being resolved by the Dealers Or the Factory. They are NOT cheap cars anymore and certainly more expensive to service than the Rover V8 cars. Why should owners have to accept poorly engineered mechanics, while I accept "build quality" has always been a but shady. As a previous TVR owner this has always been the sacrifice I could live with. This is the ONLY reason I have not bought another TVR

raceboy

13,603 posts

302 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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nubbin said: Is there anything else people want to criticise TVR over?

Well I'm not to keen on the corporate purple, and Mr Wheeler wears some dodgy looking sports jackets

steve-p

1,448 posts

304 months

Wednesday 23rd October 2002
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griff2be said:Incidentally, the 'Rover' V8 is actually a Buick engine if you trace it right back.


You don't say!