TVR Badge Font
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ABBTVR

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69,324 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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Does anybody know what text font TVR use for their rear badges and is it available for AUTOCAD?
Also has the TVR Badge (the logo that's made up of lines), got copywrite?

PetrolTed

34,461 posts

325 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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The TVR badge (with the lines ) is a trademark of TVR. Probably registered but even if it isn't they have rights by default. You don't have the right to reproduce it without permission. Guess who's been seeking advice on trademarks recently

simpo one

90,915 posts

287 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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I came across the phrase 'common law trademark' recently. If it's anything like 'common law marriage' then I guess a certain period of time confers certain rights to the user.

pdv6

16,442 posts

283 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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AFAIK, you (or the company you work for) automatically gains copyright in anything you produce (text, video, sound recording etc.)

For the TVR logo, though, it would be a trademark and they would probably have registered it. If it wasn't registered and you could prove that you have been using the same logo for a longer period, you could theoretically prevent TVR from using it.

The company I work for had a god-awful time trying to register the name of one of our main products as a trademark, as the name is made up of 2 common words run together. As far as we know (and had to prove!), nobdy else uses the same two words in this way so we eventually won.

igrey

7 posts

288 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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The name TVR was a Registered UK trademark but the registration expired earlier this year. This doesn't mean that you can start using it as you would be liable for "passing off" if you started selling goods with the TVR logo on, i.e. misrepresenting that the your goods are associated with or are approved by TVR.

If you were to start making replacement TVR badges, it is unlikely that you would infringe the registered trademark for TVR (if it was still registered) or be liable for passing off because you would be selling them to go on a car which is a TVR so no misrepresentation occurs. However, you would then be infringing copyright in the badge which lasts for the life of the original designer plus an additional 70 years!

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PS I work for a firm of patent & trademark agents.

p7ulg

1,052 posts

305 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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I tried to get a blank silver keyfob engraved with the TVR logo many years ago and I was told they were not allowed to do it.In the end they counted the number of lines in it and then engraved it with an extra line.They said it mean't it was'nt an exact copy !
Truth of the matter was I only wanted it because I had a TVR, couldn't really see the problem.

simpo one

90,915 posts

287 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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'The company I work for had a god-awful time trying to register the name of one of our main products as a trademark...'

Some years ago a large company that should have known better was launching a product. After they'd spent £17K on promotional videos (with me luckily), British Telecom rang them up and said 'Sorry, that's the name of one of our phones, kindly re-name it...'

squirrelz

1,186 posts

293 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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igrey said:
PS I work for a firm of patent & trademark agents.



There must be a pistonheader for every eventuality!!!!

Is there a job so obscure that no pistonheader actually does it?

Rosso Paul

1,080 posts

289 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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Does anybody know what text font TVR use for their rear badges and is it available for AUTOCAD?



I don't know whether it's available for AUTOCAD but the font TVR use for 'Cerbera', Griffith" etc. is from the ITC Galliard family. I think it is either Galliard Black Italic or Galliard Bold Italic. If you can't get the font, Palatino Bold Italic would be a reasonable substitute and is readily available.
Paul

GlennP

16 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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Might be easier to create it manually and then turn it into a symbol. Don't know what you want it for but I'm sure you'd need permission as it'll be a registered trademark.

I'm a design engineer by trade!

raceboy

13,605 posts

302 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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I imagine once you've drawn the logo's up in CAD you can then export them to a CNC machine and have your own one off bits and bobs, I've done kickplates via a CNC laser cutter after spending hours drawing the TVR logo, can't imagine Mr Wheeler's going to come and sue me

Paul V

4,489 posts

299 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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I want to do that with my dashboard when I get around to it, just spent last hour drawing up a 3D TVR badge, what can I book that to

Bodo

12,458 posts

288 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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Why not vectorize a *.jpg TVR-badge and imprt it into CAM software?

ABBTVR

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69,324 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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Bodo said: Why not vectorize a *.jpg TVR-badge and imprt it into CAM software?


I'm all ears, be gentle with me. How?

ABBTVR

Original Poster:

69,324 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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I don't know whether it's available for AUTOCAD but the font TVR use for 'Cerbera', Griffith" etc. is from the ITC Galliard family.
Paul


Thanks for the input Paul. Off to search for fonts.
I tell you how I get on.

Bodo

12,458 posts

288 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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ABBTVR said:

Bodo said: Why not vectorize a *.jpg TVR-badge and imprt it into CAM software?


I'm all ears, be gentle with me. How?


I've never tried it, but it should work like this:

*print the logo from your picture software into a HPGL-file

*use PLT2DXF.EXE to convert HPGL to *.dxf

*open with AutoCad

Whereas HPGL should be a standard for plotting data (use "HP 7475A" as plotter for your image software), and PLT2DXF.EXE is specially written to use with AutoCad. HPGL is, what I understand already a dataset for cnc-machines - for a plotter indeed.
Maybe there are easier ways to get the data into AutoCad then?

If all that doesn't work, try VPmaxNT, which is designed for your job.

b.

ABBTVR

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69,324 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st October 2002
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Bodo said, I've never tried it, but it should work like this:

*print the logo from your picture software into a HPGL-file

Thanks Bodo, your a gentleman and it sounds like a scholar. I'll give it a whiz over the week end, and see how I get on.
Regards
ABB