small brutal practical coupe please- Porsche or TVR?
small brutal practical coupe please- Porsche or TVR?
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ultramarine91

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123 posts

278 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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Hi all

I have a Porsche 944S and a Lancia Montecarlo, both of which have been brilliant cars in their own very different ways.

I am fortunate enough to be getting a decent company car soon, but it has to be combine the qualities of my 2 cars: rwd, have superb handling, feel quick, preferably with a decent boot as I am constantly hauling crap about and look the part.

Exige- too much like the Monte
VX220 - it's a Vauxhall
Clio V6 - not as quick as you'd think, no beauty
Bm 330 coupe - nice car but loads about and a bit soft
M3 - maybe

The general plan is to lease and then buy from the leasing company at the end of 3 years.

Realistically I have a budget of 33-35K, but there is a lack of cars on the market that fit my criteria. The 350Z should tick all the boxes but..erm, don't know if I could live with that badge- Honda, Mitsubushi maybe...but Nissan? However, the car is pretty grunty to drive, feels like a modern 944 - anyone owned one who can tell me I'm just being a snob?

The TVR looks great if slightly 'max powered' - but all I ever hear is how bits fall of all TVRs and how they cost a fortune to run...again, anyone got one who can comment? The lack of toys and no driver aids definitely appeals to me as I 'm not a fan. I think they are around £38K though. I only know one person who actually owns a TVR (Griffith) and he absolutely loves it! So pretty tempted

As for the Cayman, it's out of my budget, looks like a Boxster (no offence, but I hate the look of them) possibly long waiting list - but it's a Porker and will have an enduring appeal I'm not sure the other 2 will have.
Can anyone add cars to the list to help deepen my quandry? No convertibles or 4 wheel drive.

Your thoughts would be appreciated guys, and hope my comments don't offend you crazy TVR nutters.

Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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Why such badge snobery the VX Turbo is a cracking car and great fun from all accounts

Nuggs

4,640 posts

263 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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ultramarine91 said:
brutal

ultramarine91 said:
Pche 944

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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Tamora...? great for hooning and pretty cool in stealth colours

V8 Kieran

968 posts

282 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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If you want a brutal coupe, then the T350 is probably the most brutal for your money. At your price range, the Boxster is just not there (remember Top Gear: Tamora annihilated the Boxster and both supplied Boxsters burnt out their clutches).

You get what you pay for: TVR give you 911 performance for Boxster money - and yes there can be minor niggles with (all) new cars, but the press over-hype this on TVRs.... because they can. Warranties are there to cover these issues, and now TVRs come with 3yr warranties.

Go test ride both - you will soon know what's right for you!

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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35k should get you a newish T350. It will also get you a newish Tuscan which is just as brutal and you get to take the roof off when it is a nice day. I had a 944 S2 which is a nice car. But if you thought it was brutal a TVR will shock you...........

bjwoods

5,018 posts

313 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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Gazboy said:
M@H said:
Tamora...? great for hooning and pretty cool in stealth colours


Fabulous piece of kit, prefered it to the T350C, but I think I'm in the minority.


NO Harm in being in a minority.. I'd have one over the T350 as well.. they were not so popular either so a bit of exclusivity

>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 3rd November 09:15

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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bjwoods said:
Brutal.

TRY a CHIM 500, or Griff 500.



I've never seen a Chim or Griff coupe. They kept those quiet.

bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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The 350Z is also a cracking car with stunning road handling too, the only thing that let it down for me was the cheap black plastic interior.
M3!?! No no no no no
ok the M3 had an impossible task to perform, I was without my Griff for 9 weeks and was given an M3 as a loan car. If you have driven a TVR and like it, the M3 is no match i'm afraid.
Have you considered the new Marcos?

ajcerb

268 posts

274 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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if it is still for sale take a look at mr freefall's T350 - i think it has extras and it is absolutely gorgeous - as long as you like a yellow car - Halcyon Midas Pearl I think. It really is a page 3 stunnah

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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Gazboy said:
my idea of brutal is a turbo at full boost




But a (any) modernish TVR will be good for an alternative kind of 'brutal'. Im my dream garage, make it one of each please.

(and I agree the Tamora is the steal of the current/recent range...)

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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Gazboy said:
M@H said:
Gazboy said:
M@H said:
Tamora...? great for hooning and pretty cool in stealth colours


Fabulous piece of kit, prefered it to the T350C, but I think I'm in the minority.


NO Harm in being in a minority.. I'd have one over the T350 as well.. they were not so popular either so a bit of exclusivity

>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 3rd November 09:15


Great for buyers, crap for sellers. I'd love a black Tamora with a red/black interior- don't wrap it, I'll drive it home.
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Spooky Me too !

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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To me, brutal means weighty, but blindingly fast.
More like a right hook from a middleweight boxer.
It means at least six cylinders, huge torque, and bellowing noises.

Being sensible for daily use, the Nissan, otherwise a Plymouth Barracuda in 'strip' trim.

bjwoods

5,018 posts

313 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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unrepentant said:
bjwoods said:
Brutal.

TRY a CHIM 500, or Griff 500.



I've never seen a Chim or Griff coupe. They kept those quiet.

Can always get the optional hardtop now available

B

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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ultramarine91 said:
rwd, have superb handling, feel quick, preferably with a decent boot


Any unsold Monaros out there?

AlexRWD

1,254 posts

266 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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griffter said:
ultramarine91 said:
rwd, have superb handling, feel quick, preferably with a decent boot


Any unsold Monaros out there?


Just what I was thinking - VXR version of course

Graham B

1,367 posts

312 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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AlexRWD said:
griffter said:
ultramarine91 said:
rwd, have superb handling, feel quick, preferably with a decent boot


Any unsold Monaros out there?


Just what I was thinking - VXR version of course


How about a Jag XKR with some work on the handling? I'm sure Racing Green offer various tuning options.

basil brush

5,615 posts

292 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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grahamw48 said:
To me, brutal means weighty, but blindingly fast.
More like a right hook from a middleweight boxer.
It means at least six cylinders, huge torque, and bellowing noises.


Like a dragster with lights.

800

1,973 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd November 2005
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£35K would get you a very nice 4-5 year old 996 (2 or 4 wheel drive)
But they're certainly not 'brutal' (GT3 or TT needed for that), the Boxter, obviously much less so.

If really want a 'brutal' coupe then, TVR, XKR, or VXR

If what you really mean is the best coupe for £35, then 996