Griffith - Improving handling/traction control etc
Griffith - Improving handling/traction control etc
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arndike

Original Poster:

9 posts

248 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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Hello
I have a Griffith 500 and am considering uprating the engine and brakes,
however are their any handling improvements to stop the backend going 360 or am i just stuck with a basic shock and springs upgrade?

thank you
neville

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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That's a left boot.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,007 posts

264 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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Eh?

arndike

Original Poster:

9 posts

248 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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Unfortunatly foot and brain dont agree with my lack of driving ability. Therefore a technology upgrade is needed to save my life.

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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The first thing you want to do,to make your griff faster and far more enjoyable,is to fit some quality shocks and springs.Speak to Joo at www.track-car-solutions.co.uk .He's the man for these cars. Enjoy the mods-i have
P.S.if you want to know any more about the mods i've had done,then feel free to mail me.

the gazman

1,686 posts

249 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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arndike said:
Hello
I have a Griffith 500 and am considering uprating the engine and brakes,
however are their any handling improvements to stop the backend going 360 or am i just stuck with a basic shock and springs upgrade?

thank you
neville


Dont underestimate the difference shocks & springs and a geo check will make if you are running old Billy's, check the forums.

richb

56,259 posts

313 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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mrmaggit said:
That's a left boot.
What, slip the clutch?

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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If you haven't done so already, invest in some advanced driver training too.

petros

2,441 posts

258 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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Having my Chimaera upgraded at the moment with Protech shocks all round. Speak to Ian at Middlewich, 01606831244, very reasonable price.

cdt

537 posts

311 months

Monday 16th January 2006
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As already suggested, something like a ride drive course would be far cheaper. You'd be amazed how well your car can handle.

Or if you want something even cheaper buy a copy of Roadcraft for £12 or so.

arndike

Original Poster:

9 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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can anyone recommend an advanced course?

jonnyb

2,590 posts

281 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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These people are the most reconmended: www.ridedrive.co.uk/

I have done one of their courses and found it very usefull. They write an artical in Sprint about car controll every month.

hugerr

139 posts

268 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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I had my Chim 450 upgraded last year. As far as the running gear is concerned I fitted new poly bushes throughout and a new set of Ohlin shocks all round.

The difference in its handling and ride is absolutely stunning and although quite an expensive route, several people who should know have suggested it's probably one of the best handling chims around now. The back end feels really well planted and stable. Break away at the limit is predictable and very communicative, and whereas before the upgrade the car felt more powerful than the chassis could handle, it now feels in need of a major power boost

There is plenty that can be done to these cars to improve their handling, especially if the current set up is tired and misaligned.

hugh

Battlecat

945 posts

267 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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Incidently if i change the shocks and bushes on my non-PAS Griff, will this make the steering feel heavier, lighter, or no difference?

the gazman

1,686 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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Battlecat said:
Incidently if i change the shocks and bushes on my non-PAS Griff, will this make the steering feel heavier, lighter, or no difference?


I've never heard of any adverse effects of changing bushes or suspension, most people say the car feels more planted.

richb

56,259 posts

313 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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the gazman said:
Battlecat said:
Incidental if i change the shocks and bushes on my non-PAS Griff, will this make the steering feel heavier, lighter, or no difference?

I've never heard of any adverse effects of changing bushes or suspension, most people say the car feels more planted.
Indeed and getting the geometry re-aligned on all 4 corners will make the steering feel better. Rich...

rogerp30

432 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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Don't know about the engine, but have just fitted 300mm 4 pot Winwood calipers on the front. (Standard are perfectly good for road, but get hot on tracks). You may need to fiddle about with the spacing to centre the calipers with the disc, and I had to grind a bit of the bottom of the calipers to avoid snagging the wheel (there is plenty of ally to grind from). Call Tower View - they are very helpful.

To avoid 360, only thing I have found is to squeeze the throttle in gently, don't welly it (especially in greasy conditions).
the gazman said:
arndike said:
Hello
I have a Griffith 500 and am considering uprating the engine and brakes,
however are their any handling improvements to stop the backend going 360 or am i just stuck with a basic shock and springs upgrade?

thank you
neville


Dont underestimate the difference shocks & springs and a geo check will make if you are running old Billy's, check the forums.

the gazman

1,686 posts

249 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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richb said:

Indeed and getting the geometry re-aligned on all 4 corners will make the steering feel better. Rich...


Completely agree Rich, particularly if you change shocks and springs but I don't know anybody who wouldn't do a check after fitting and well worth a regular check anyway.

cdt

537 posts

311 months

Tuesday 17th January 2006
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jonnyb said:
These people are the most reconmended: www.ridedrive.co.uk/

I have done one of their courses and found it very usefull. They write an artical in Sprint about car controll every month.


I think it is well worth the money for their day where you spend an hour or 2 on an airfield. It lets you really see what the car can do and its limits.

Well worth the money, it lets you get more out of your car and hopefully will save you from an expensive accident. They aren't condescending in any way, just giving lots of very useful advice based on your driving ability.