Bloody Vectra drivers
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Hands up anyone in here that hasn't had some sad bloody rep in a Vectra try it on on the motorway.
Can anyon explain what is the thinking behind these people? Do they really think they can take a TVR, or are they just complete t0ssers?
Sorry to be inflammatory, Ted, but they get on me wick. It's bad enough we have to put up with such garbage on the roads at all without them being driven by prats.
Can anyon explain what is the thinking behind these people? Do they really think they can take a TVR, or are they just complete t0ssers?
Sorry to be inflammatory, Ted, but they get on me wick. It's bad enough we have to put up with such garbage on the roads at all without them being driven by prats.
ok, they are fast(er) for an Opel/GM saloon- but the drivers annoy the hell out of me.
They seem to think they've got a top performing car just because they can beat Mr Mondeo rep at the lights or on the motorway.
Try and get one of those tw@ts to move left on the M1- it seems like they'd rather die...(not a bad thing
)
They seem to think they've got a top performing car just because they can beat Mr Mondeo rep at the lights or on the motorway.
Try and get one of those tw@ts to move left on the M1- it seems like they'd rather die...(not a bad thing
)Can I just point out for the less eagle-eyed amongst you that this post is from WEDGIE and not WEDG1E... although WEDGIE was my original PH username.....!
Confused? I was when I spotted it...
It's the Mercedes/ BMW/ Audi (and now, it seems, VW) brigade that p155 me off... always trying to do 15-20 mph more than the rest of us, in the O/S lane, regardless of traffic, weather, speed cameras... do you get some kind of special license when you buy a German car, or injections of Aryan arrogance, or is it that Mr. Plod assumes you'll be in the dodgy-handshake squad with the Chief Super, so they won't stop you?
Then there's the knobsticks who WILL NOT indicate. And the young women (most of whom are also in the non-indicating category as well) who seem to be in the majority when it comes to speeding, especially around town, and - surprise surprise - mostly seem to be driving VW Golfs. Or Puntos, in the case of the daft bitch who almost removed the front of my van this evening, with her determination to get across a junction in front of me....
THEN there's the van drivers....
Where's me brandy....
Ian
>> Edited by wedg1e on Friday 6th December 01:28 (due to brandy intake)
>> Edited by wedg1e on Friday 6th December 01:29
Confused? I was when I spotted it...
It's the Mercedes/ BMW/ Audi (and now, it seems, VW) brigade that p155 me off... always trying to do 15-20 mph more than the rest of us, in the O/S lane, regardless of traffic, weather, speed cameras... do you get some kind of special license when you buy a German car, or injections of Aryan arrogance, or is it that Mr. Plod assumes you'll be in the dodgy-handshake squad with the Chief Super, so they won't stop you?
Then there's the knobsticks who WILL NOT indicate. And the young women (most of whom are also in the non-indicating category as well) who seem to be in the majority when it comes to speeding, especially around town, and - surprise surprise - mostly seem to be driving VW Golfs. Or Puntos, in the case of the daft bitch who almost removed the front of my van this evening, with her determination to get across a junction in front of me....
THEN there's the van drivers....
Where's me brandy....
Ian
>> Edited by wedg1e on Friday 6th December 01:28 (due to brandy intake)
>> Edited by wedg1e on Friday 6th December 01:29
wedg1e said: It's the Mercedes/ BMW/ Audi (and now, it seems, VW) brigade that p155 me off... always trying to do 15-20 mph more than the rest of us, in the O/S lane, regardless of traffic, weather, speed cameras... do you get some kind of special license when you buy a German car...
Here we go, another TVR driver who's jealous of our superior build quality and reliabilty
. I drive my BMW the same way that I drive my TVR and if that means doing 85 in lane 3 when overtaking you, so be it. Agree with you about those annoying Mondectra things. There was one on the A1M last week doing 90 in heavy rain and the ba$tard wouldn't move over for me 
I hire quite a few cars for my work as I don't much enjoy doing business mileage in the Griff. Often the hire car is either a Vectra or a Mondeo.
It's a hire car and I'm not paying the fuel bill so within reasonable parameters I always make as good progress as the road conditions allow.
I have to say that I'm amazed when I come up behind a performance car (and this has happened with TVRs with club stickers in the window) and the driver will NOT let me pass. He holds me up when the middle lane is full, then blats away in the fast lane when the middle lane is clear, leaving me to catch up again when the middle lane queues start. I don't know for certain (because I never have the chance to discuss it with the driver) but it seems to me that Mr Fancycar just does not want to be passed by MrRepmobile - on principle. No rationale behind this at all.
So it works both ways and it seem to me that all drivers should be more tolerant and reasonable.
It's a hire car and I'm not paying the fuel bill so within reasonable parameters I always make as good progress as the road conditions allow.
I have to say that I'm amazed when I come up behind a performance car (and this has happened with TVRs with club stickers in the window) and the driver will NOT let me pass. He holds me up when the middle lane is full, then blats away in the fast lane when the middle lane is clear, leaving me to catch up again when the middle lane queues start. I don't know for certain (because I never have the chance to discuss it with the driver) but it seems to me that Mr Fancycar just does not want to be passed by MrRepmobile - on principle. No rationale behind this at all.
So it works both ways and it seem to me that all drivers should be more tolerant and reasonable.
Don't get me wrong - I'm no car snob (if you saw what I use day-to-day you'd know why!)
There just seems this wise-ass section of the driving community that get on everyone's nerves. And it so happens that the Vectra is their car of choice. Used to be Cavaliers. The problem's always been there - even going back to Mark 3 Cortinas.
No reflection on the car as such (even though they are cr@p)
BTW - Sorry if I appear to have nicked your handle, Wedg1e. Not intentional, it's just me bl00dy name!
There just seems this wise-ass section of the driving community that get on everyone's nerves. And it so happens that the Vectra is their car of choice. Used to be Cavaliers. The problem's always been there - even going back to Mark 3 Cortinas.
No reflection on the car as such (even though they are cr@p)
BTW - Sorry if I appear to have nicked your handle, Wedg1e. Not intentional, it's just me bl00dy name!
and 
of courseOh FFS, I wasn't having at go at people for speeding: I was doing 95 down the M1 last week myself. It's when they do it in the way that suggsts they are some kind of superhuman, able to see better and further, and respond faster, than the rest of us, in conditions that don't support 70 mph let alone anything else. If you are enough of a tosser to think that you can brake hard from 95 in tossing rain without hitting the car whose bumper you're 4 feet from, then feel free to get past, I want you well out of my way.
Ian
Ian
So this thread is really about...
"Bl00dy Tailgaters".
Vectra. Its not cr*p. Its not great. Its just a transport appliance. Its never the car..only the driver.
BTW: Has anyone ever noticed - the worst tailgaters used to be hoons on the Motorway trying to "push" you out of the way. Now it seems to be young lasses around town - who aren't being aggressive at all - they just want to drive very close....
????
I know which is the most dangerous, of course, but has anyone else noticed this slightly fluffy behaviour?
"Bl00dy Tailgaters".
Vectra. Its not cr*p. Its not great. Its just a transport appliance. Its never the car..only the driver.
BTW: Has anyone ever noticed - the worst tailgaters used to be hoons on the Motorway trying to "push" you out of the way. Now it seems to be young lasses around town - who aren't being aggressive at all - they just want to drive very close....
???? I know which is the most dangerous, of course, but has anyone else noticed this slightly fluffy behaviour?
Ultimately, doesn't this all boil down to lane discipline?
I honestly believe that there are enough genuinely braindead amoeba out there, in possession of the DVLA's pink voucher who should be - as Ted and numerous other luminaries of the board have pointed out many times - frankly rescinded of their right to pilot motorized transport on the Queen's highway.
On the subject of clueless muppetista , I came across a guy this morning in a mid 80s Escort, complete with the requisite blue neon jet nozzles and a dinky little matching antenna too, trying to blow me into the weeds.
Being as I was beetle shod, I wondered which part of his cranial processor (if indeed he had one) bore him the temerity to even attempt such an outrage?
The significance here, being just another tedious, 'Vectra-esque' illustration, of the seemingly profound lack of basic respect for the automotive heirarchy. Like the great Wedge said above, this ain't snobbery it's just basic common sense.
Bloody peasants.
I honestly believe that there are enough genuinely braindead amoeba out there, in possession of the DVLA's pink voucher who should be - as Ted and numerous other luminaries of the board have pointed out many times - frankly rescinded of their right to pilot motorized transport on the Queen's highway.
On the subject of clueless muppetista , I came across a guy this morning in a mid 80s Escort, complete with the requisite blue neon jet nozzles and a dinky little matching antenna too, trying to blow me into the weeds.
Being as I was beetle shod, I wondered which part of his cranial processor (if indeed he had one) bore him the temerity to even attempt such an outrage?
The significance here, being just another tedious, 'Vectra-esque' illustration, of the seemingly profound lack of basic respect for the automotive heirarchy. Like the great Wedge said above, this ain't snobbery it's just basic common sense.
Bloody peasants.
Yes, and 'Roadcraft', a word not used too often in these forums and practised even less on the roads nowadays. Congestion and overcrowding have seen to this (plus the 'I've got ABS, airbags, fully-comp insurance and I've not paid for this car out of my own pocket so there' mentality).
derestrictor said: Ultimately, doesn't this all boil down to lane discipline?
I drive a vectra 2.2 Diesel - and own a wedge.
The Vectra with that engine is a great car - surprisingly fast, pulls away quicker than pretty much any other "every day" car petrol or otherwise and takes roundabouts and corners better than most TVR's!
(ok maybe a slight exaggeration - but it handles well anyway - before i get 
down) But in a straight line v a TVR - no way!!!
This is all about lane discipline - according to the highway code - lane 2 and 3 on a motorway are for overtaking and we all know 70% of the UK driving population just don't get it - then you get the "dick head in your mirror" syndrome and you end up with all the stuff people have moaned about here.
It doesn't matter if you are driving a Vectra, a Wedge or a £50k tuscan if don't need to be in the outside lane then move over - 'cos unless you are going at over 120mph you can guarantee that sooner or later there is going to be someone coming up behind you who is going quicker.
>> Edited by skyrocketship on Friday 6th December 16:01
The Vectra with that engine is a great car - surprisingly fast, pulls away quicker than pretty much any other "every day" car petrol or otherwise and takes roundabouts and corners better than most TVR's!
(ok maybe a slight exaggeration - but it handles well anyway - before i get down) But in a straight line v a TVR - no way!!! This is all about lane discipline - according to the highway code - lane 2 and 3 on a motorway are for overtaking and we all know 70% of the UK driving population just don't get it - then you get the "dick head in your mirror" syndrome and you end up with all the stuff people have moaned about here.
It doesn't matter if you are driving a Vectra, a Wedge or a £50k tuscan if don't need to be in the outside lane then move over - 'cos unless you are going at over 120mph you can guarantee that sooner or later there is going to be someone coming up behind you who is going quicker.
>> Edited by skyrocketship on Friday 6th December 16:01
skyrocketship said: I drive a vectra 2.2 Diesel - and own a wedge.
The Vectra with that engine is a great car - surprisingly fast, pulls away quicker than pretty much any other "every day" car petrol or otherwise and takes roundabouts and corners better than most TVR's!
What complete b*ll*cks!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I am a salesrep and hated the vectra. Thought it handled like a pile of pap. I now have an Audi A3 130bhp TDI, sports version and it couldn't live with my S3 no matter how bent or straight the road was. Of course it's how you drive it.
Anyway, I'd rather be in a TVR (or any "real" sportscar for that matter) doing 10mph than some mass produce heap of tin doing a 130mph.
It's not how fast you go, it's how you get there!
One final point. Do any of you guys experience idiots driving right up your behind? I don't know whether they want to hear the sound of the exhausts or just give you a hard time. I had a guy in a Mondeo do it the other day. Could see him in my rear view mirror, dashing in and out of the traffic, to then sit two inches from my rear end - even though there were plenty of over taking opportunities. Had to give him the twin pipe breath of fire to create some space.
I'm all for people appreciating the marque but come on!!
I am a salesrep and hated the vectra. Thought it handled like a pile of pap. I now have an Audi A3 130bhp TDI, sports version and it couldn't live with my S3 no matter how bent or straight the road was. Of course it's how you drive it.
Anyway, I'd rather be in a TVR (or any "real" sportscar for that matter) doing 10mph than some mass produce heap of tin doing a 130mph.
It's not how fast you go, it's how you get there!
One final point. Do any of you guys experience idiots driving right up your behind? I don't know whether they want to hear the sound of the exhausts or just give you a hard time. I had a guy in a Mondeo do it the other day. Could see him in my rear view mirror, dashing in and out of the traffic, to then sit two inches from my rear end - even though there were plenty of over taking opportunities. Had to give him the twin pipe breath of fire
to create some space. I'm all for people appreciating the marque but come on!!
Vectras. Urrggggh!
Its a phenomenononon....
No its not, its wank.
I had the misfortune to drive the "supertouring" version of these sheds, i was not impressed.
Build quality was er...shat. Handling was er...shat.
Throttle response could be measured in years......
Very poor experience, dont buy one, dont drive one, everybody will hate you.
Its a phenomenononon....
No its not, its wank.
I had the misfortune to drive the "supertouring" version of these sheds, i was not impressed.
Build quality was er...shat. Handling was er...shat.
Throttle response could be measured in years......
Very poor experience, dont buy one, dont drive one, everybody will hate you.
Yup indeed a pile of sh1t. Didn't have time to expand when I posted the last...
Had one as a hire car for a business trip to Preston (driving from the South Coast). Within 10 miles the indicator stalk had developed a mind of its own (no this was not the stupid design quirk or fuzzy bloody logic), the seats had become so uncomfortable I thought I was destined to get 'Aircraft seat syndrome'. When we get to Preston eventually I staggered out the car and felt like an arthritic. The best thing about it was the boot.
It's an ugly,slow (yes and the 2.5 V6), ungainly, motor car for the stylistically, dynamically, personality, originality, indivuality challenged sad bast*rd. If someone gave me one as a company car I would
a)
b)Find the person responsible and them
c)and probably reconsider my future as an employee of the firm that values me so highly that they even paused for a nanosecond to consider I would be pleased to accept such an abortion.
As for buying one, well that's even sadder, particularly shelling out your own hard earned cash to buy the 2.5 V6 Vectra...I mean what a waste, what a lack of imagination what a wa*nker!
Had one as a hire car for a business trip to Preston (driving from the South Coast). Within 10 miles the indicator stalk had developed a mind of its own (no this was not the stupid design quirk or fuzzy bloody logic), the seats had become so uncomfortable I thought I was destined to get 'Aircraft seat syndrome'. When we get to Preston eventually I staggered out the car and felt like an arthritic. The best thing about it was the boot.
It's an ugly,slow (yes and the 2.5 V6), ungainly, motor car for the stylistically, dynamically, personality, originality, indivuality challenged sad bast*rd. If someone gave me one as a company car I would
a)
b)Find the person responsible and
them c)and probably reconsider my future as an employee of the firm that values me so highly that they even paused for a nanosecond to consider I would be pleased to accept such an abortion.
As for buying one, well that's even sadder, particularly shelling out your own hard earned cash to buy the 2.5 V6 Vectra...I mean what a waste, what a lack of imagination what a wa*nker!
**ijp** said: Yup indeed a pile of sh1t. Didn't have time to expand when I posted the last...
Had one as a hire car for a business trip to Preston (driving from the South Coast). Within 10 miles the indicator stalk had developed a mind of its own (no this was not the stupid design quirk or fuzzy bloody logic), the seats had become so uncomfortable I thought I was destined to get 'Aircraft seat syndrome'. When we get to Preston eventually I staggered out the car and felt like an arthritic. The best thing about it was the boot.
It's an ugly,slow (yes and the 2.5 V6), ungainly, motor car for the stylistically, dynamically, personality, originality, indivuality challenged sad bast*rd. If someone gave me one as a company car I would
a)
b)Find the person responsible and
c)and probably reconsider my future as an employee of the firm that values me so highly that they even paused for a nanosecond to consider I would be pleased to accept such an abortion.
As for buying one, well that's even sadder, particularly shelling out your own hard earned cash to buy the 2.5 V6 Vectra...I mean what a waste, what a lack of imagination what a wa*nker!
..........................................................
So **IJP**,a person like me who "Shell out their hard earned cash" on a Vectra are "W*nkers",I own a 2.6 SRI
I bought for cash,and i am happy with it,my apologies for not being an elitist TVR owner.
Drive Safely,
Ron.
>> Edited by ronj on Saturday 7th December 22:44
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