Speed 12 Back Racing?
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go-cart Mozart

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59 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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My brother in law was over last night and was saying he had been at Donington Park last week with work and saw an awesome TVR lapping very quickly.

From his description "Big, red, huge rear wing, very loud and with a number plate?!" I can only think of the Cerbera Speed 12? Anyone know anything else fitting this description?

Apparently there was also a film crew with the car as well, anyone know anything about this?

My brother in law's boss took a photo, so he is trying to get hold of it for me so I'll post it if I can.

egomeister

7,598 posts

292 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Sounds like the road-going speed 12. Last I heard someone had bought it and it was being prepped to go back on the road!

chrisrwc

60 posts

248 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Thats the one which was in evo last year, very cool car. they where having problems with race ecu set up it was "only running at 700hp", hopefully now running at the full 880hp

Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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chrisrwc said:
Thats the one which was in evo last year, very cool car. they where having problems with race ecu set up it was "only running at 700hp", hopefully now running at the full 880hp


Its not cool , its a bitza of the lowest order ,,, i dont get the hype around this piece of trash

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Marki said:
chrisrwc said:
Thats the one which was in evo last year, very cool car. they where having problems with race ecu set up it was "only running at 700hp", hopefully now running at the full 880hp


Its not cool , its a bitza of the lowest order ,,, i dont get the hype around this piece of trash


What a bizarre post, Marki. Have you consumed the contents of an extraordinarily large bong?

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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The car is in development at the moment, to make the most of its qualities.
its being looked after by some TOP guys with the best experience possible.
it was descrbed to me as "Awesome" by someone who's raced every sort of TVR and many other Marques!

it'll hopefully be breaking cover quite alot this year!

Marki

15,763 posts

299 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Sorry but ,, this car is held up so high and it was never a viable road car , in racing with full time factory back up it never really shone , sorry i dont mean to offend but TVR cant sort out the s6 which i would have thought should be prority 1

>> Edited by Marki on Tuesday 31st January 20:20

Equinox

504 posts

251 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Yipppppppppppppeeee

Cant wait to see it out and about.

Tell me when, i'll be there.

lundinoir

633 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Marki said:


Sorry but ,, this car is held up so high and it was never a viable road car , in racing with full time factory back up it never really shone , sorry i dont mean to offend but TVR cant sort out the s6 which i would have thought should be prority 1




I'm sure the Speed 6 is getting attention at TVR and I don't think the Speed 12 (if that's what it was) would be getting any attention from TVR themselves.

I'm sure it's still in private/enthusiasts hands, if not a professional racing team?

I've driven the Speed 12 on various circuits and I can promise you it is an awesome experience. There aren't many cars that continually spin the rear wheels all the way through the complete rev range.

Its a beast and in the right, dedicated hands, would be a mother of racing cars if the right time and money were spent on it.

I've only driven it on the playstation but its still good. :-}

>> Edited by lazyitus on Tuesday 31st January 21:50

Gaffer

7,156 posts

306 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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OMG Nooooooooooo what have they done to it....?

It now looks worse that that Carisma cerb. Someone should get it off these people and turn it back into what it was before they destroyed it.



Claire

GCerbera

5,161 posts

280 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Gaffer said:
OMG Nooooooooooo what have they done to it....?

It now looks worse that that Carisma cerb. Someone should get it off these people and turn it back into what it was before they destroyed it.



Claire

Hi Claire,

The Cerbera Speed 12 as you see it at the site, is the result of how TVR
themselves have developed it over the years.

Nothing you see shown has been done by the new owner in any shape or form...
as I am sure you father would confirm.

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

275 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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May be i am in a minority, but I love it!! Would love to see it in the flesh, and to me it looks just like the one I read in all the car magazines.

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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maddog-uk said:
May be i am in a minority, but I love it!! Would love to see it in the flesh, and to me it looks just like the one I read in all the car magazines.



Me too. Awesome car.

rpa.janwell

1,653 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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Marki said:

Sorry but ,, this car is held up so high and it was never a viable road car , in racing with full time factory back up it never really shone , sorry i dont mean to offend but TVR cant sort out the s6 which i would have thought should be prority 1

>> Edited by Marki on Tuesday 31st January 20:20


Interesting: just coming up to the 12K service with my Sagaris - not one issue with the engine - driven every day bar 6k service time since last August - ice, snow, etc etc. Given the current experience of Tuscan 2 and Sagaris owners I think that the S6 being sorted may have changed.

S'pose what really pi$$es me off is that BMW, Mercedes and Porsche etc just don't publicise their problems: if they did the balance would be redressed irrevocably.

Back to the thread - the Speed 12 that appeared at the CREAM event was stunning: presume this is the same one?

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

275 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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I think people all over the world can relate to it thanks to some xbox game (i dont own one). Certainly my us colleagues now know what a TVR is now!

ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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Gaffer said:
OMG Nooooooooooo what have they done to it....?

It now looks worse that that Carisma cerb. Someone should get it off these people and turn it back into what it was before they destroyed it.



Claire


It's no different to how it raced in '02. Identical aero, in fact.

>> Edited by ahonen on Wednesday 1st February 09:30

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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rpa.janwell said:
Marki said:

Sorry but ,, this car is held up so high and it was never a viable road car , in racing with full time factory back up it never really shone , sorry i dont mean to offend but TVR cant sort out the s6 which i would have thought should be prority 1

>> Edited by Marki on Tuesday 31st January 20:20


Interesting: just coming up to the 12K service with my Sagaris - not one issue with the engine - driven every day bar 6k service time since last August - ice, snow, etc etc. Given the current experience of Tuscan 2 and Sagaris owners I think that the S6 being sorted may have changed.

S'pose what really pi$$es me off is that BMW, Mercedes and Porsche etc just don't publicise their problems: if they did the balance would be redressed irrevocably.

Back to the thread - the Speed 12 that appeared at the CREAM event was stunning: presume this is the same one?


Errum, not wanting to open a big can of worms but I agree with Marki. The speed six is far from sorted or there wouldn't have been a boat load of them undergoing open heart surgery at the dealers I visited recently.

And if you are going to use one car as an example of a marque, can I tell you that my wifes 328i touring BMW (which she's had for four years), started to use oil at 97,000 miles a year ago. We took it to a dealer and the engine was replaced FREE OF CHARGE, no warranty cover and didn't even buy the car from them. I think that shows how companies should own up to their shortcomings, and puts TVR well in the shade with their record on the speed six IMHO.
I wish you all the best with the saggy engine, but to deride other marques is really like thrown stones in your own private TVR glasshouse.

chassis 33

6,194 posts

311 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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Did the red one ever race?

I thought is was only the white and black "Speed 12's" as opposed to the Cerbera Speed 12's that raced, or was the white car the black car, which was the purple show car, no I saw that hidden away in the factory in '97...which is the one that went to Japan, was it Japan and did it ever go?

...oh I don't know

Regards
Iain

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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GCerbera said:
Gaffer said:
OMG Nooooooooooo what have they done to it....?

It now looks worse that that Carisma cerb. Someone should get it off these people and turn it back into what it was before they destroyed it.



Claire

Hi Claire,

The Cerbera Speed 12 as you see it at the site, is the result of how TVR
themselves have developed it over the years.

Nothing you see shown has been done by the new owner in any shape or form...
as I am sure you father would confirm.


Whilst I believe Graham to be right, the Speed12 that I saw way back in 2000 on a test day at Donnington was far far more stylish and elegant, and all IMHO of course, a much more hansome beast. See what you think:





Not sure about the mix-n-match wheels though.

Tim