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Hello all,
Is it possible to fit any age plate to any car? I was thinking of getting a plate starting V8... My car is a 97R - is it ok to put a V8 plate on a car older than a V plate? I always asssumed it was OK to fit any plate to any car assuming you owned the right to. After spotting my desired plate a few days ago a friend mentioned I might not be able to transfer it as it is a newer plate than my car - thus making the car seem newer.
Hope you can clear rhis up.
Tony
Is it possible to fit any age plate to any car? I was thinking of getting a plate starting V8... My car is a 97R - is it ok to put a V8 plate on a car older than a V plate? I always asssumed it was OK to fit any plate to any car assuming you owned the right to. After spotting my desired plate a few days ago a friend mentioned I might not be able to transfer it as it is a newer plate than my car - thus making the car seem newer.
Hope you can clear rhis up.
Tony
Under certain circumstances ( unfortunately I don't know which) a car can have a newer plate than it's original build date, I think some examples may include cars imported as non new cars from places like Jersey. I don't know how they do it but I have seen cars get newer plates than their original build date. As I say I don't know how.
SMB said: Under certain circumstances ( unfortunately I don't know which) a car can have a newer plate than it's original build date, I think some examples may include cars imported as non new cars from places like Jersey. I don't know how they do it but I have seen cars get newer plates than their original build date. As I say I don't know how.
I think you are incorrect - but I stand to be corrected.
If a vehicle is imported new, it is given a new registration plate when registered in this country, that is related to the day it is registered i.e. just like new cars in the UK.
If a used vehicle is imported into the UK, then I'm fairly sure that it is given an age related number plate that relates to the date of it's manufacture. If I get time I'll do a little research.
**999** said:
SMB said: Under certain circumstances ( unfortunately I don't know which) a car can have a newer plate than it's original build date, I think some examples may include cars imported as non new cars from places like Jersey. I don't know how they do it but I have seen cars get newer plates than their original build date. As I say I don't know how.
I think you are incorrect - but I stand to be corrected.
If a vehicle is imported new, it is given a new registration plate when registered in this country, that is related to the day it is registered i.e. just like new cars in the UK.
If a used vehicle is imported into the UK, then I'm fairly sure that it is given an age related number plate that relates to the date of it's manufacture. If I get time I'll do a little research.
that's what I understood, however I have seen older cars running on newer plates ( i suppose the could have been illegal plates, but that would be a stupid criminal as they stand out a mile).
I raise the Jersey link as I remember seeing a triumph herald at a classic car show there, it was UK registered but not the original plate. The original plate was a dateless one ( shown in sample photo's with the car), however it was running on an L ('73) reg plate. Happy to be proved wrong, but that's what I saw.
SMB said:
**999** said:
SMB said: Under certain circumstances ( unfortunately I don't know which) a car can have a newer plate than it's original build date, I think some examples may include cars imported as non new cars from places like Jersey. I don't know how they do it but I have seen cars get newer plates than their original build date. As I say I don't know how.
I think you are incorrect - but I stand to be corrected.
If a vehicle is imported new, it is given a new registration plate when registered in this country, that is related to the day it is registered i.e. just like new cars in the UK.
If a used vehicle is imported into the UK, then I'm fairly sure that it is given an age related number plate that relates to the date of it's manufacture. If I get time I'll do a little research.
that's what I understood, however I have seen older cars running on newer plates ( i suppose the could have been illegal plates, but that would be a stupid criminal as they stand out a mile).
I raise the Jersey link as I remember seeing a triumph herald at a classic car show there, it was UK registered but not the original plate. The original plate was a dateless one ( shown in sample photo's with the car), however it was running on an L ('73) reg plate. Happy to be proved wrong, but that's what I saw.
Well without delving into the text books, the only confirmation I can provide is that imported non new vehicles are issued 'Q' plates if their age and/or origin is uncertain. Reading into this, it would support my earlier statement that non-new imports have plates issued which reflect their date of manufacture -the only known quantity.
Your Herald example could fall into the category of previously unregistered vehicles that were manufactured in the UK on date X, but were first registered in the UK years later. It could also be exlained that the plate was just put on for the show.
The channel islands may be an exception to the rule (but I don't think they are) that issues age related plates to vehicles imported into the UK. Bear in mind, that the Channel Islands are part of the UK and as such I raise the question as to whether such vehicles are actually 'imported'. Do we have any Customs and Excise participants who can answer ?
Well having imported a car from Guernsey in the CI I can confirm that they give you a plate to match the date of first reg in the country it was registered in.
You have to get a certificate of conformity from the manufacturer to proove it is up to 'British Standards'
So I am fairly convinced along with all of you other guys that you can't put a newer plate than the cars age....
You have to get a certificate of conformity from the manufacturer to proove it is up to 'British Standards'
So I am fairly convinced along with all of you other guys that you can't put a newer plate than the cars age....
I can confirm that a car imported into the UK from the EU can be registered 'as new' (i.e no previous owners on the V5, marked 'new at first registration') subject to certain age/milage restrictions. However, the plate issued by DVLA will have an age prefix relating to the date of first registration anywhere in the EU. To drive the car away from the dealership, it would need to be temprarily registered, taxed and insured.
Therefore, if you bought a car new in (say) Germany during the '52' registration period in the UK and then imported it to the UK in time to comply with the 'as new' regulation, but held off from registering it here until '03' plates were available, you'd still only be able to pick (or be issued with) a '52' plate or earlier.
Therefore, if you bought a car new in (say) Germany during the '52' registration period in the UK and then imported it to the UK in time to comply with the 'as new' regulation, but held off from registering it here until '03' plates were available, you'd still only be able to pick (or be issued with) a '52' plate or earlier.
A friend at uni brought his mondeo over from France and had it registered in the UK, it was issued with an 'M' plate corresponding to it's age.
Surely it depends on whether the vehicle has been registered before...? If a car was bought but never registered in say 1990 (would be F/G plate), if it was registdred today, wouldn't it be eligible for a 52 plate...?
Surely it depends on whether the vehicle has been registered before...? If a car was bought but never registered in say 1990 (would be F/G plate), if it was registdred today, wouldn't it be eligible for a 52 plate...?
roop said:Surely it depends on whether the vehicle has been registered before...? If a car was bought but never registered in say 1990 (would be F/G plate), if it was registdred today, wouldn't it be eligible for a 52 plate...?
As the car wouldn't comply with the 'as new' regulations (sorry, can't find them on the DVLA site at the moment) due to its age (even if the milage was zero), then it wouldn't be eligble for a 52 plate. I think they would then defer to the build date, which would be on the CoC (which would be required in order to register the car here anyway).
SMB said: It definately wasn't just for show, along with the pictures were original resgistration docs etc showing a dateless first UK registration and then the L reg one. Don't know how he did it though.
Otherwise I agree, the rules say 'can't make a car appear newer'.
The only other explanation is that the car was a substantial rebuild, using several new parts including chassis/body etc. The regulations dictate that under such circumstances the vehicle is submitted for inspection, and that supporting documentation for the date of the rebuild and the cars history is supplied. The vehicle can then be issued with a new registration that corresponds to the date of the rebuild. If no such documentation is supplied, the Police will also inspect the vehicle and if 'approved' then a 'Q' plate will be issued.
Bottom line....no vehicle can display a registration plate that gives the impression that the vehicle is newer than it actually is..
:2hrsofrackingbrainsforareasonableexplanation:
Found the relevant page for import regulations.
Basically, you can register a car as new following import as long as you do it within 14 days of import and it only had 'delivery' milage (can include the drive from Europe to the UK).
Basically, you can register a car as new following import as long as you do it within 14 days of import and it only had 'delivery' milage (can include the drive from Europe to the UK).
SMB said: It definately wasn't just for show, along with the pictures were original resgistration docs etc showing a dateless first UK registration and then the L reg one. Don't know how he did it though.
Otherwise I agree, the rules say 'can't make a car appear newer'.
I think the answer to this is that years ago, it was possible to register a imported used car with a current plate. This of course is no longer possible.
In 1974, a friend of mine bought a 1963 Sunbeam Alpine that had spent the first years of its life in the Channel Islands. However, it had been brought back to the mainland in about 1970, and was given an H suffix plate. I suspect something similar had happened to the Triumph Herald.
Cheers,
Paul.
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