What basis for respect or no respect?.........
What basis for respect or no respect?.........
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d_drinks

Original Poster:

1,426 posts

293 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Looking at the some people's profiles they seem to be getting a hammering yet the threads they post are generally inoffensive. Just wondered what basis people are offering a rating of respect/no respect. As I don’t know that many PH’s personally any rating I’ve offered have all been based on the topics that the person has posted and how informative/funny etc. they were, even if I haven’t agreed with someone (we all have our own minds on most subjects) I haven’t taken the chance to rate them negatively . Ted apologies if this is out of line, it’s just intended to cure my curiosity rather than stir up a hornets nest along the newbie lines.

Cheers
Darren

joospeed

4,473 posts

302 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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I likened it to a high school prom king/queen situation .. it's popularity rather than content that seems to be the main criteria in voting .. someone may get a low respect rating for saying something controversial even though it's well thought through, well written, etc. Treat it as a rating of how "mainstream" / "middle of the road" you are rather than how well you are respected for your views and ability to discuss.

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Noticed that my respect rating seems to rise and fall quite rapidly... guessing that this is because some people find my posts amusing, whilst others don't appreciate my humour... so it yo-yo's a bit.

Psychobert

6,318 posts

280 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Personally, being a newbie both here and to the Tiv, I post respect on the basis mainly of someone offering a helpful suggestion to one of my 'help WTF do I do now?' type posts or to one from someone else..

Think I've given the occasional one to amusing posts, but if I don't thats not because I don't find it funny, just haven't really done that yet..

Yet to give a no respect to anyone. If someone were constantly annoying/offensive, I might, but yet to see that here..

daydreamer

1,409 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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I think that it works to a degree, but certainly not in the way that it was originally intended - i.e. if anybody gets any negative readings then they will be kept an eye on.

I don't think that many people are too bothered about the results, but some with very negative scores do tend to be the ones that are more personally offensive than others in the threads. So it does work as a marker to decide if someone is having a go due to something you said, or just generally get off on having a go - if that makes sense .

PetrolTed

34,464 posts

327 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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It does seem as if some disrespect is being dished out to people just because others disagree with them. I'm hoping that in the long run it will work out to be a useful guide. If that isn't the case then I'll bin it.

shadowninja

79,435 posts

306 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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i was wondering... what is the point of the respect rating anyway? i can see that before long we're gonna have people simply posting "please click respect on my profile please please". we could go down the lycos chat route and have a visits counter and try to get people to bump up the visits too "please visit my profile". and we could also have a logbook and collect logbook/visitor messages "please leave me a log message please please"

oh, before I click submit reply... asl? asl? asl?

PetrolTed

34,464 posts

327 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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I originally intended it to be of use when using the reviews section ([url]here|www.pistonheads.com/reviews[/url] which was probably a bit premature.

Like I say, if after another month or so it hasn't settled down into a fair representation of people then I'll tweak it or remove it.

flasher

9,289 posts

308 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Well most people I have judged so far has been on the basis of the content of their posts and whether what they have posted on a particular topic is (in my opinion) bollocks or not..
The only exception to this was Bennno, who I instantly dissrespected just for badness!! even though he's a good mate!! Still think there is room for Veteran Gasser, newbie etc. to be put next your name.. it's just the term you use that can cause offence to the more sensitive people amongst us..

SGirl

7,922 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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I've given respect to everyone in my mates list (hi guys! ) and anyone who's been particularly helpful (to me or others), and no respect to anyone whose posts seem repeatedly to simply provoke a negative reaction rather than to add anything to a conversation or attempt to assist with a problem - i.e. anyone I think may be guilty of trolling. Used the "no respect" sparingly though!

BTW Ted, once you've allocated respect/no respect, it doesn't seem to be possible to return your decision to no opinion? Would it be possible to implement that, or is it a lot of hassle?

nubbin

6,809 posts

302 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Yeah, I agree with flasher - let's have the epithets back. Flasher is, after all, the "Venerable Bede" of gassing station....

>> Edited by nubbin on Wednesday 8th January 14:16

joospeed

4,473 posts

302 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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SGirl said: I've given respect to everyone in my mates list (hi guys! ) and anyone who's been particularly helpful (to me or others), and no respect to anyone whose posts seem repeatedly to simply provoke a negative reaction rather than to add anything to a conversation or attempt to assist with a problem - i.e. anyone I think may be guilty of trolling. Used the "no respect" sparingly though!

BTW Ted, once you've allocated respect/no respect, it doesn't seem to be possible to return your decision to no opinion? Would it be possible to implement that, or is it a lot of hassle?



hi guys indeed (hi sian) .. but how do we know who's in your mates list / or anyone's mates list .. I'd like to see who's added me but can't seem to find a way of doing it ..

SGirl

7,922 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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joospeed said: hi guys indeed (hi sian) .. but how do we know who's in your mates list / or anyone's mates list .. I'd like to see who's added me but can't seem to find a way of doing it ..


Hi Joolz!

You can see who's in your own mates list by selecting My Info / Mates at the top of the page. You can't see who's added you to their lists, though. Good thing too IMHO - I wouldn't want to know just in case nobody loves me!!

gbgaffer

546 posts

294 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Interesting point - I got 4 dis's from 1 post that whilst abrasive wasn't IMO offensive, just happened to be a subject I felt strongly about.

Now I'm wondering if the problem is my PH 'handle', in that people construe it as in some way arrogant. Truth is its my initials, followed by my other activity (old wooden gaff rigged sailing boat), and I've been using it for so long on other bb's that I didn't think about any other possible connotations. What do you think - should I change it to something else?

Btw Ted, is there a problem with the 'mates' option in that I note that 'RiverGirrl' is listed on mine, and whilst I'm sure I would like to be mates with her , we haven't been formally introduced and I don't recall making her acquaintance!

Cheers all

Graham

kevinday

13,679 posts

304 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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My dishing out of respect has been along the lines of respect for general helpfulness e.g. posters like Madcop, joospeed, shpub who are always helpful and do not resort to rudeness and slanging matches. I have also dished out a couple of 'No Respect' to posters who are continuously rude or slag people off, no relationship with agreement with views.

Imelda

793 posts

290 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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gbgaffer said:
Now I'm wondering if the problem is my PH 'handle', in that people construe it as in some way arrogant.


Well if someone's shallow enough to pass judgement on you based solely on your nickname, their opinion is worth slightly less than bugger all. So I say no, leave it as it is. Sod 'em.

Oh, and have some respect, in an effort to redeem your 100% record that you've managed to accrue.

MikeyT

17,863 posts

295 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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I think people are going to havediffering reasons for giving respect and giving no respect etc.

I disagreed strongly with CarZee for some rant or other and told him he was getting a 'no respect' for it!.

Sorry, but it warranted it IMO. Next day, I had a few of 'no respect' votes myself! Deserved or not I don't know but someone obviously thought so!

Were they for having, in their opinion, posted something they didn't agree with, disagreeing with what carZee thought, or because I publicly said he was getting a no respect vote?

Make your own mind up.

Edited to say I have 89% thumbs down by 9 members

And this diagreement with carZee was over something trivial. I really feel I can't respond to his 'rid the gene pool of lower class scum' rants for fear of getting 100% disrespect

Can anyone beat that? And I hardly post any more either ...

>> Edited by MikeyT on Wednesday 8th January 15:38

flasher

9,289 posts

308 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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nubbin said: Yeah, I agree with flasher - let's have the epithets back. Flasher is, after all, the "Venerable Bede" of gassing station....

>> Edited by nubbin on Wednesday 8th January 14:16


Nubbin mate! What is a "venerable Bede" ?? I reckon Bonce should have "told to fcuk off by Mel 1003" by his name...


>> Edited by flasher on Wednesday 8th January 15:37

flasher

9,289 posts

308 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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MikeyT said: I think people are going to havediffering reasons for giving respect and giving no respect etc.

I disagreed strongly with CarZee for some rant or other and told him he was getting a 'no respect' for it!.

Sorry, but it warranted it IMO. Next day, I had a few of 'no respect' votes myself! Deserved or not I don't know but someone obviously thought so!

Were they for having, in their opinion, posted something they didn't agree with, disagreeing with what carZee thought, or because I publicly said he was getting a no respect vote?

Make your own mind up.


methinks you have got a bit touchy over this Mikey.. I'd like to think most people "dissed" you over this because they disagreed with your post. I disagreed with you but I didn't "diss" you....you were lucky this time...!!

MikeyT

17,863 posts

295 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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methinks you have got a bit touchy over this Mikey.. I'd like to think most people "dissed" you over this because they disagreed with your post. I disagreed with you but I didn't "diss" you....you were lucky this time...!!


Flasher, no not at all, honest!

I'd like to believe people only 'dissed' me over my opinion. If so, fair enough, that's democracy, but if it was for other reasons, then that is wrong IMO.

Looks like I could get the 100% thumbs down then