TVR on Prime Minister's Question Time
TVR on Prime Minister's Question Time
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tvrolet

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4,748 posts

311 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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Just caught PM's Questions on Sky, and who I have to presume is the local MP gets a question out on TVR and the Blackpool lay-offs. Unfortunately, this was on a big-screen TV in an eatery, so I didn't catch the full gist or hear Tony's response. They say all publicity is good publicity, but I think questions in the House are stretching it a bit far...

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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tvrolet said:
Just caught PM's Questions on Sky, and who I have to presume is the local MP gets a question out on TVR and the Blackpool lay-offs. Unfortunately, this was on a big-screen TV in an eatery, so I didn't catch the full gist or hear Tony's response. They say all publicity is good publicity, but I think questions in the House are stretching it a bit far...


Quite possible. But one good thing that has come from all this, all the people who i know which keep asking me what a TVR is all know who they are now...

Only drawback is that they must think i live in a cloud as they all say "Thought id best let you know, TVR are laying off staff etc."

People eh? All need shooting

dinkel

27,779 posts

287 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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Tony on B'pool Online . . .

"I shall be raising the future of TVR with the Prime Minister over Parliamentary questions this afternoon, hoping for support and advice from him."

J1mmyD

1,823 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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dinkel said:
Tony on B'pool Online . . .

"I shall be raising the future of TVR with the Prime Minister over Parliamentary questions this afternoon, hoping for support and advice from him


...oh please ... don't ... .... my ribs are hurting!

tvrolet

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4,748 posts

311 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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Presuming it's got to be on here www.pm.gov.uk/output/page306.asp but I can't play it where I am right now...

spivvy

1,535 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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just listened to it

basically tough

we will help with retraining and reskilling

monkeypilot

106 posts

274 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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Sounds about right for a typical Government response to the decline of manufacturing in the UK. Never mind - go work in a call centre! And I don't have any political bias here, it's been the same for decades. Manufacturing accounts for 16% of the GDP. We've never had an engineer as PM by the way.

UncleDave

7,155 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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Fire99 said:
tvrolet said:
Just caught PM's Questions on Sky, and who I have to presume is the local MP gets a question out on TVR and the Blackpool lay-offs. Unfortunately, this was on a big-screen TV in an eatery, so I didn't catch the full gist or hear Tony's response. They say all publicity is good publicity, but I think questions in the House are stretching it a bit far...


Only drawback is that they must think i live in a cloud as they all say "Thought id best let you know, TVR are laying off staff etc."

People eh? All need shooting



I've been getting a LOT of that aswell

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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I even made an ex work mate from China tell me TVR were going bust..

snowy

541 posts

310 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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rev-erend said:
I even made an ex work mate from China tell me TVR were going bust..


Why

spartacus

2,878 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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What you mean this:

Q4. [65631] Mrs. Joan Humble (Blackpool, North and Fleetwood) (Lab): Is the Prime Minister aware that the TVR car company has announced that it will leave its Blackpool base in six months, and that that announcement has caused real distress to my constituents? Will he therefore, as a matter of urgency, ask specialist advisers from the DTI to liaise with Blackpool council and offer advice and support to TVR so that it can look at realistic options to remain in Blackpool? If the company makes the sad decision to relocate some or all of its operations, will he ensure that support and advice are given to the members of its skilled work force so that they can find suitable alternative employment?

The Prime Minister: I can certainly give my hon. Friend that assurance, and I am obviously sorry for those of her constituents who face the prospect of redundancy. She will know that there is now a well tried and tested procedure for dealing with situations where manufacturing or other redundancies arise as a result of changes in the market. We will make sure that the full infrastructure of support from Jobcentre Plus and the DTI is put in place to try to help her constituents. It is fortunate that our very strong economy and the number of jobs available in it mean that we have been able to provide extra jobs when similar redundancies have occurred. In addition, I assure my hon. Friend that we would be happy also to provide the necessary re-skilling and retraining for her constituents.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

289 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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The Prime Minister said:
She will know that there is now a well tried and tested procedure for dealing with situations where manufacturing or other redundancies arise as a result of changes in the market.


Does he mean the dole ? But not for six months and then only for six months ? Then you get to work at B&Q or a call centre

Engineers and those in proper manufacturing should be treated like the gold dust they are.

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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tubbystu said:
The Prime Minister said:
She will know that there is now a well tried and tested procedure for dealing with situations where manufacturing or other redundancies arise as a result of changes in the market.


Does he mean the dole ? But not for six months and then only for six months ? Then you get to work at B&Q or a call centre

Engineers and those in proper manufacturing should be treated like the gold dust they are.

Sadly this and the prievious bunch seem to think wealth is made by regurgitating money and taking their percentage. Great for the odd individual creaming it off, bugger all use in actually generating wealth.
Need to go to Germany or Japan to be truely appreciate as an engineer I'm affraid .
At these points I'm always reminded of Shirley Williams on Question Time during the 80's, stating its was obscene that a 25 year old could earn 4-5 times as much in a year as a 30+ year experienced engineer by gambling with other peoples money . The only time I've actually agreed with anyone from old or new Labour mind .

I've spent a lot of time helping with a major export manufacturing deal (still subject to signature etc), a very rare thing now days for GB Plc and I will get my salary and be thankfull its not my P45 . If I was a city type I could probably retire on cut of it, go figure........

spartacus

2,878 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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spartacus said:
What you mean this:

Q4. [65631] Mrs. Joan Humble (Blackpool, North and Fleetwood) (Lab): Is the Prime Minister aware that the TVR car company has announced that it will leave its Blackpool base in six months, and that that announcement has caused real distress to my constituents? Will he therefore, as a matter of urgency, ask specialist advisers from the DTI to liaise with Blackpool council and offer advice and support to TVR so that it can look at realistic options to remain in Blackpool? If the company makes the sad decision to relocate some or all of its operations, will he ensure that support and advice are given to the members of its skilled work force so that they can find suitable alternative employment?

The Prime Minister: I can certainly give my hon. Friend that assurance, and I am obviously sorry for those of her constituents who face the prospect of redundancy. She will know that there is now a well tried and tested procedure for dealing with situations where manufacturing or other redundancies arise as a result of changes in the market. We will make sure that the full infrastructure of support from Jobcentre Plus and the DTI is put in place to try to help her constituents. It is fortunate that our very strong economy and the number of jobs available in it mean that we have been able to provide extra jobs when similar redundancies have occurred. In addition, I assure my hon. Friend that we would be happy also to provide the necessary re-skilling and retraining for her constituents.



So to summarise: Because the economy is "so strong", unfortunately not in the manufacturing sector though, Tony is in a position to help place all workforce in similar jobs? oh I see by the use of, wait for it "Job Centre Plus", that will be the new improved rebranded job centre!

Notice there is absolutely no mention of any attempt to help TVR remain in Blackpool, which is what the lady was asking for.



>> Edited by spartacus on Wednesday 26th April 22:25

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

277 months

Wednesday 26th April 2006
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I've just been browsing Joan Humble's record on Early-day Motion signatures...

Among those relevant to this place are:
RENEWABLE TRANSPORT FUELS OBLIGATION (No. 2): ...welcomes the Government's announcement that it will introduce a Renewable Transport Fuels Obligation (RTFO) to increase the use of biofuels and thereby reduce carbon emissions from the transport sector...
MOTORWAY DRIVING (No. 2): ...the importance of improving the quality of motorway driving; and urges the Government to introduce measures to make it compulsory for newly qualified drivers to undertake some form of motorway tuition...
IMPROVING CHILD ROAD SAFETY: ...expresses concern about the number of child pedestrian casualties in the UK... notes that 85 per cent. of pedestrians hit at 40 miles per hour will die, 45 per cent. at 30 miles per hour and only 5 per cent. at 20 miles per hour...
CAUSING DEATH BY CARELESS DRIVING: persuade the Government to strengthen road safety law; supports the Transport Committee's report... which identifies the absence of an offence of causing death by careless driving; notes the recent... consultation on road traffic offences involving bad driving...

She also seems to have an interest in cricket and animals.

Looks like she stands roughly on the fence, but on the side of safety where cars are concerned.