Diff Oil Leak
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Seasider

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Sunday 15th July 2007
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Could this be the cause ??






Not dripping/oil marked, its a leak when running!!!! mostly over the back plate & offside of the diff frown

Re-sealed the back plate & new drive shaft seal...

I have a horrible feeling thats not the problem & its a crack in the casing or back plate but i cant see any...




Edited by Seasider on Sunday 15th July 22:31

Seasider

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Bump for the morning crew smile

Ribol

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Monday 16th July 2007
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How about fitting the seal a tiny bit(1mm/2mm) out from where it should be, so the groove does not line up with the lip of the seal but still seals properly externally?

I have done it in the past on a different application, worked a treat for me.

Just a thought and a free bump wink

Seasider

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Not a lot of margin on seal seat & I’d rather sort it properly if I can…

More trying to find out if this would cause a big leak or if i've got a crack frown

Appreciate the bump & your thoughts biggrin

Ribol

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
Not a lot of margin on seal seat & I’d rather sort it properly if I can…

More trying to find out if this would cause a big leak or if i've got a crack frown

Appreciate the bump & your thoughts biggrin
Never seen a crack on a diff that wasn't obvious after a wash(the diff wink) - if you know it is coming from that seal could there be too much movement laterally on the shaft - bearing wear etc forcing a good seal to leak?

ETA which flange are we talking about here?

Edited by Ribol on Monday 16th July 11:20

Seasider

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Ribol said:
which flange are we talking about here?
Off-side drive shaft...

Ribol

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
Ribol said:
which flange are we talking about here?
Off-side drive shaft...
As there is a real shortage on input so far.......

.......if you have established a good seal fitted correctly won't cure it and that is defo where the leak is - anything wrong with shaft, vibration due to CV(?) causing lateral movement in bearing - leak.

and another bump in the interests of a better suggestion smile

Seasider

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Monday 16th July 2007
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New C/V's fitted as the others were worn, not massively but slight rotational movement. not that much movement on the shaft so don't think the roller bearing are shagged enough to cause it...

Ribol said:
and another bump in the interests of a better suggestion smile
hehe maybe the lunchtime Guru's will be along soon biggrin

Edited by Seasider on Monday 16th July 12:06

Ribol

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
maybe the lunchtime Guru's will be along soon biggrin
That must be some lunch smile

Any thoughts on this one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

ncs

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312 months

Monday 16th July 2007
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Have you tried dropping the diff on your finger?

Hope this helpsbiggrin

Nicknerd

Seasider

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ncs said:
Have you tried dropping the diff on your finger?

Hope this helpsbiggrin

Nicknerd
It trapped my finger & fell on my arm & no not really wink

The Griffalo

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Monday 16th July 2007
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A decent local engineering shop could crack test it with dye or ultrasonics.... It can also be welded up and reground if it's made from unobtanium yes

ncs

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
ncs said:
Have you tried dropping the diff on your finger?

Hope this helpsbiggrin

Nicknerd
It trapped my finger & fell on my arm & no not really wink
Well at least I tried

nerd

Seasider

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The Griffalo said:
A decent local engineering shop could crack test it with dye or ultrasonics.... It can also be welded up and reground if it's made from unobtanium yes
I'm just really hoping it isn't as i dont want to pull it out again !! Actually its more the put it back up frown

The Griffalo

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
The Griffalo said:
A decent local engineering shop could crack test it with dye or ultrasonics.... It can also be welded up and reground if it's made from unobtanium yes
I'm just really hoping it isn't as i dont want to pull it out again !! Actually its more the put it back up frown
Can you dim where the lip sits? If it sits in that groove I'll bet you at least five pounds that'll be your leak yes If it is that's certainly repairable.

Ribol

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
I'm just really hoping it isn't as i dont want to pull it out again !! Actually its more the put it back up frown
Can this be done sensibly working off the ground with some decent stands etc, as in no lift?

Talking Chim here(but probably similar), are we talking skid pan off, exhaust off, anti roll bar off, prop end off, shaft ends off, sensor off?

Does the diff(BTR on mine) pass through the chassis rails with both speed sensor wheels on(looks wider)?

Any surprises?

Seasider

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Monday 16th July 2007
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On the train at the moment so a basic reply.. Yes, but !!.... I've done it twice now (would be easier with 2 people) ETA It would help if you have a degree in wimins bits/delivering large packages through small openings smile

Edited by Seasider on Monday 16th July 18:04

Seasider

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Tried a new seal slightly further outboard still leaking frown

I'll settle for a beer Rob wink


Looks like its out again banghead and the spare back in rolleyes


Ribol give me as shout when you need to get yours out smile

I'll talk you through it, because i doubt by then i'll ever want to see another one again hehe

Ribol

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Seasider said:
Ribol give me as shout when you need to get yours out smile
Never mind give you a shout, having looked under there I am seriously considering giving you the keys - before I go on holiday hehe

Is your diff like mine(BTR)? The distance between the chassis rails seems tight for it to come out with the sensor wheels on, is it an optical illusion?

Seasider

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Monday 16th July 2007
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Ribol said:
Seasider said:
Ribol give me as shout when you need to get yours out smile
Never mind give you a shout, having looked under there I am seriously considering giving you the keys - before I go on holiday hehe

Is your diff like mine(BTR)? The distance between the chassis rails seems tight for it to come out with the sensor wheels on, is it an optical illusion?
yes BTR...

Lift, push forward, Twist, Rotate & straight out through the rails biggrin


The reverse ain't as easy frown

I'm away the same time as you wink