Cerbera Vs Tuscan
Discussion
Ok this has probably been done a million times before, but i cant find a thread.
The title says it all really, which is the better car?
Points that i am looking at are reliability, speed, servicing costs, storage space and comfortability.
I am kinda hooked on the Tuscan looks, but a black Cerbera with tinted windows is also and idea.
I open the floor
The title says it all really, which is the better car?
Points that i am looking at are reliability, speed, servicing costs, storage space and comfortability.
I am kinda hooked on the Tuscan looks, but a black Cerbera with tinted windows is also and idea.
I open the floor
d3ano said:
Ok this has probably been done a million times before, but i cant find a thread.
The title says it all really, which is the better car?
Points that i am looking at are reliability, speed, servicing costs, storage space and comfortability.
I am kinda hooked on the Tuscan looks, but a black Cerbera with tinted windows is also and idea.
I open the floor
Reliability:
LOL
go through the Tuscan forum over the past month alone and count rebuilds... Speed:
As standard, Cerbera has it on straightline pace, as for cornering I understand the Tuscans have a high speed stability problem. Also, the Cerbera now comes in lovely Red Rose spec - so 400bhp (maybe more) REAL to play with, bye bye Tuscan and pretty much all other supercars this side of £100,000
Servicing Costs:
Vary more from car to car, get a decent independant if you have a V8 and save alot of money. Stay with a main dealer with a speed six, I understand the factory prefer this for when the time comes. Therefore I guess the Tuscan might cost more.
Storage space:
It goes to the Tuscan, but if you dont use the rear seats the Cerbera wins again, hurrah!
Comfortability:
Havent got a clue what you are on about. They both have the same seats dependant on year (earlier cerbs have better ones AFAIK, other peoples opinions, I havent been in a new Cerbera for long enough). The Tuscan rides more smoothly thanks to its softer set up, nice if you want that kind of thing I guess, the Cerbera isnt exactly racecar-harsh though.
The floor is now closed, go forth and buy a Cerbera. Although if the Tuscans looks are more your thing, go for that.
At the end of the day they are both superb TVR's, but one is proven to last, preform, corner and store better than the other
We are coming up to 40,000miles now - how many Tuscan owners can claim that on one engine?? Wouldnt change our car for any other current TVR except a newer Cerbera Red Rose. 
New Tuscan's are not a problem....everyone has been knocking them recently but if you can buy new or 1 year old you will have as much reliability as the Cerb! ie they now have the new Tuscans sorted and you won't find a better looking (IMHO) sports car!
If 'BCA' can be biased....I might as well be!
Alan.
If 'BCA' can be biased....I might as well be!
Alan.
d3ano said:
Ok this has probably been done a million times before, but i cant find a thread.
The title says it all really, which is the better car?
Points that i am looking at are reliability, speed, servicing costs, storage space and comfortability.
I am kinda hooked on the Tuscan looks, but a black Cerbera with tinted windows is also and idea.
I open the floor
Not sure why this is O/T. Any way, my opinion :
Reliability - same between the two
Speed - unless you get a Cerbera RR the Tuscan will be quicker upto 120 - it has real bhp not V8 TVR bhp which is less
Servicing costs - same between the two
Storage space - same betwee the two (if you use the Cerbera's back seats)
Comfort - I think the Cerbera now uses the Tuscan seats so the same. The clutch on a cerbera is much heavier, so bear it in mind if you are in traffic jams alot. Also the speed 6 pulls very smoothly and easily from low revs - something the V8s don't do.
Your call!
Cheers,
Andy.
This may sound controversial, but the Cerbera is IMHO, a far more handsome and classic looking car, and I think the Tuscan is starting to look dated.
I hope the Cerbera goes on for years - it's the next future "classic" TVR.
Get a speed6 and see if you can wangle a secret 400bhp upgrade!
I hope the Cerbera goes on for years - it's the next future "classic" TVR.
Get a speed6 and see if you can wangle a secret 400bhp upgrade!
BCA said:
Reliability:
LOL
Speed:
As standard, Cerbera has it on straightline pace, as for cornering I understand the Tuscans have a high speed stability problem.
Storage space:
It goes to the Tuscan, but if you dont use the rear seats the Cerbera wins again, hurrah!
At the end of the day they are both superb TVR's, but one is proven to last, preform, corner and store better than the other
I'm sorry but it's getting a bit wearing listening to people dissing the Tuscan, and now we're down to 17 year old learner drivers doing it. :yawn:
Drive several examples of both, back to back if possible and you'll probably buy the Tuscan. (Take a look at the sales figures).
Handling (admittedly a bit of a handful if you're 17 and can't fcuking drive), performance, practicality are all fantastic with the Tuscan and the looks are stunning. I like the Cerbie as well but I'd rather have a Tuscan.
All IMHO of corse.
nubbin said:
This may sound controversial, but the Cerbera is IMHO, a far more handsome and classic looking car, and I think the Tuscan is starting to look dated.
This from someone who drives an example of the only ugly TVR ever made.
Only kidding Nubbin. The Tamora's looks are really er ....................................interesting. 37 buyers can't all be wrong.
I love both cars - the Cerbie is a top machine but I ended up buying a Tuscan.
What I can tell you from the weekend trip to Le Mans is that my standard Tuscan 4.0 is slightly quicker off the line and the same top speed as a 4.5 Cerbie....
also there were no stability issues either at 6500rpm in 5th - on a number of runs (you work out how fast that is) I think this is largely due to car set up and no cross winds
What I can tell you from the weekend trip to Le Mans is that my standard Tuscan 4.0 is slightly quicker off the line and the same top speed as a 4.5 Cerbie....
also there were no stability issues either at 6500rpm in 5th - on a number of runs (you work out how fast that is) I think this is largely due to car set up and no cross winds
Soz Tasty and BCA... in no way taking a pop at you guys just starting out on this petrolhead lark... it's just you've got to admit, Unrepentant's comment was fcuking funny
And Ben... how the hell do you know all this stuff? Or has your Dad's spare keys to the Cerb mysteriously gone missing? (been there done that
)
And Ben... how the hell do you know all this stuff? Or has your Dad's spare keys to the Cerb mysteriously gone missing? (been there done that
)LOL - nicely put!
The keys havent gone missing, but I have the other set. I am just talking purely on what I have read from various owners who have owned both cars and what I have heard from said owners in person.
"17 year old and cant drive" - very true, but it doesnt mean that I havent driven the Cerbera. I have only driven the Cerbera at reasonably low speeds (TVR-wise atleast) but intend to do a trackday asap, will report back when I do.
As for it being a handful, yes, I guess pretty much anything with that power is, and I have no doubt a few of you arent exactly schumacher either.
We have owned the Cerbera for years, anything that goes wrong with it, I know about. Any handling traits, I know about. Any niggles that happen on most Cerberas, I know about. Everything that makes it the car that it is, I know about. I have never spoken to anyone that has been put off TVR ownership by a Cerbera, wish I could say the same about the Tuscan.
As for speed, it comes down to aerodynamics, the Cerbera is a slippery bastard, the Tuscans wider and is less slippy. For traction the Tuscan will be better because its such a soft set up - anyone who understands basic suspension set ups understands this. The Cerbera also has the longer wheelbase and overall length aid in its high speed abilities.
IMHO the Tuscan is still an unknown area for reliability. Everyone says the newer engines are holding out, but thats been said since they first started to go. I have heard too many horror stories and met too many people who have got sick of thier cars so much they refuse to drive them.
Go for whatever you want, you may ignore what I say if you want. Im just stating what I know, what I have been told and what I have heard direct from owners.
The Tuscan has its plus points, as does the Cerbera, follow your heart. Just dont come back on here complaining about the Tuscan looking for sympathy.
Edited to add - The high speed stability problems is in cornering you muppet, you should be worried if your car has trouble in a straight line
>> Edited by BCA on Wednesday 18th June 12:08
The keys havent gone missing, but I have the other set. I am just talking purely on what I have read from various owners who have owned both cars and what I have heard from said owners in person.
"17 year old and cant drive" - very true, but it doesnt mean that I havent driven the Cerbera. I have only driven the Cerbera at reasonably low speeds (TVR-wise atleast) but intend to do a trackday asap, will report back when I do.
As for it being a handful, yes, I guess pretty much anything with that power is, and I have no doubt a few of you arent exactly schumacher either.
We have owned the Cerbera for years, anything that goes wrong with it, I know about. Any handling traits, I know about. Any niggles that happen on most Cerberas, I know about. Everything that makes it the car that it is, I know about. I have never spoken to anyone that has been put off TVR ownership by a Cerbera, wish I could say the same about the Tuscan.
As for speed, it comes down to aerodynamics, the Cerbera is a slippery bastard, the Tuscans wider and is less slippy. For traction the Tuscan will be better because its such a soft set up - anyone who understands basic suspension set ups understands this. The Cerbera also has the longer wheelbase and overall length aid in its high speed abilities.
IMHO the Tuscan is still an unknown area for reliability. Everyone says the newer engines are holding out, but thats been said since they first started to go. I have heard too many horror stories and met too many people who have got sick of thier cars so much they refuse to drive them.
Go for whatever you want, you may ignore what I say if you want. Im just stating what I know, what I have been told and what I have heard direct from owners.
The Tuscan has its plus points, as does the Cerbera, follow your heart. Just dont come back on here complaining about the Tuscan looking for sympathy.
Edited to add - The high speed stability problems is in cornering you muppet, you should be worried if your car has trouble in a straight line
>> Edited by BCA on Wednesday 18th June 12:08
all black said:
I love both cars - the Cerbie is a top machine but I ended up buying a Tuscan.
What I can tell you from the weekend trip to Le Mans is that my standard Tuscan 4.0 is slightly quicker off the line and the same top speed as a 4.5 Cerbie....
also there were no stability issues either at 6500rpm in 5th - on a number of runs (you work out how fast that is) I think this is largely due to car set up and no cross winds
I agree Scotty - on the way back on Monday I also found it to be very stable at "cruising" altitude.
BCA Top reply, must be an old head on those young shoulders. Just to throw my 2p in, at every track day I've been to Tuscnus have been spinning out on the high speed corners (80+) much more frequently than cerbs. Assuming an even level of driver ability the only thing I can assume is that they either have an unusual handling characteristic or break away very quick when they go.
Well guys i like to thank you all for your input, ultimatly i think that i will have to take both out on a dry day and see which is the best for me. I am kinda bias towards the Tuscan at the moment, but only slighty. Main reason is looks (as its only going to be a weekend car)
Wheres the best place to take a TVR for a spin? I live in the Bromley area of Kent as some of you may know.
Wheres the best place to take a TVR for a spin? I live in the Bromley area of Kent as some of you may know.
Take them out in the wet 
the better handling car will stand out then
Not all tuscans handle the same, not all Cerbs handle the same
PS What model Cerb has your dad got BCS ?? Because the speed six are virtually the same Cerb and Tusc and the AJP is widely acknowledged as the least reliable TVR engine ever
the better handling car will stand out then
Not all tuscans handle the same, not all Cerbs handle the same
PS What model Cerb has your dad got BCS ?? Because the speed six are virtually the same Cerb and Tusc and the AJP is widely acknowledged as the least reliable TVR engine ever
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