Chimaera needs chassis rebuild
Chimaera needs chassis rebuild
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Vandervecken

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13 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Dear All
Nine years and 99000 miles of daily use have finally caught up with my beloved Chim - it's just failed its MOT on chassis rust: I had a look when it was up on a ramp and boy it's bad... The front O/S bit was welded up last MOT but now the other 3 corners have gone.

If I'm going to save my P&J from the scrapheap it needs a body-off chassis rebuild. Trawling this site and TVRCC there are a couple of specialists mentioned as doing this kind of work but not many and most of the links are oldish.

Has anyone had this job done to a Chim/Griff/Cerb in the last few years? If so - by whom, what were they like and how much did it cost? Obviously there comes a point where it's uneconomic to fix for the value of the car, but it's otherwise in splendid nick and I love it too much to be entirely rational about that!

All comments gratefully received.
Thanks.

Frazer
p.s. I'm on the South Coast but distance not important.
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cmr2payne

1,129 posts

264 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Frazer

Sorry to hear about the car

Try giving TVR Power a call.

Chris

ray_von

3,041 posts

282 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Are the words 'Frazer' and 'chassis rust' linked?

IanMack

423 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Vandervecken said:
Dear All
Nine years and 99000 miles of daily use have finally caught up with my beloved Chim - it's just failed its MOT on chassis rust: I had a look when it was up on a ramp and boy it's bad... The front O/S bit was welded up last MOT but now the other 3 corners have gone.

If I'm going to save my P&J from the scrapheap it needs a body-off chassis rebuild. Trawling this site and TVRCC there are a couple of specialists mentioned as doing this kind of work but not many and most of the links are oldish.

Has anyone had this job done to a Chim/Griff/Cerb in the last few years? If so - by whom, what were they like and how much did it cost? Obviously there comes a point where it's uneconomic to fix for the value of the car, but it's otherwise in splendid nick and I love it too much to be entirely rational about that!

All comments gratefully received.
Thanks.

Frazer
p.s. I'm on the South Coast but distance not important.
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That which does not kill us will still hurt like hell in the morning
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Check the Griffith pages there are quite a few people who have done the work themselves, its relatively straight forward.The principle will be the same for the Chimaera. If you dont fancy doing the work yourself i can recommend a company in Middlesex. PM me for details if your interested.

jimed

1,508 posts

236 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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I know its a long way from the south coast but RT Racing in Sheffield also do that sort of work. I guess though that you need to let the people see the car before they can quote and can't trawl it round the country so local is best if you can find somewhere OK. Good luck with the problem.
Jim

GreenV8S

31,024 posts

314 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Moore Racing (TVR racers) in Milton Keynes have a reputation for doing a good line in chassis rebuilds, worth giving them a call.

QuiteQuietCerb

995 posts

253 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Andy at APM was doing a body off on a 450 chim last time i was there, worth speaking to him

tubbystu

3,846 posts

290 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Austec (Gatwick) did my chassis outriggers etc on the V8S.

dogbucket

1,254 posts

231 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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just curious, did you do anything to try and stop the rot. like waxoyl etc?

Vandervecken

Original Poster:

13 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Dear All
Many thanks for the replies so far - I shall follow them up - but please keep them coming. Unfortunately I am completely mechanically incompetent, so the prospect of doing it myself is not realistic.
Isn't PH wonderful?!
Best
Frazer

Vandervecken

Original Poster:

13 posts

239 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Hi Dogbucket
Waxoyled fairly often but not absolutely regularly throughout lifespan; I think the problem really boils down to lots of winter driving on salty motorways etc. plus the design flaws extensively reviewed elsewhere on PH.
Best
Frazer

TravelsVeryRapid

516 posts

308 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Frazer,

I have just had mine done and spent more than the cars value. It was not until the body was removed that the extent of the damage was reviled, but hopefully yours won't be that bad. For what it cost I could have gone for a much later car, maybe a 2000 model but it would still have a 7 year old chassis so I went for a new one. If you go to the Chimaera forum and look for the thread "strange door problem" all will be explained there.

Good luck,

Steve.

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Sell it and buy another that has been well looked after. Its not worth the outlay.

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Daftlad said:
Sell it and buy another that has been well looked after. Its not worth the outlay.
Ehm, who'll buy a Chimaera that failed its MOT due to a chassis issue at anything but absolute rock bottom? The way I see it, by the time it's priced low enough to make it an interesting prospect for someone else, you could as well (or better) have it repaired yourself.

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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900T-R said:
Daftlad said:
Sell it and buy another that has been well looked after. Its not worth the outlay.
Ehm, who'll buy a Chimaera that failed its MOT due to a chassis issue at anything but absolute rock bottom? The way I see it, by the time it's priced low enough to make it an interesting prospect for someone else, you could as well (or better) have it repaired yourself.
A failed MOT car can be broken and would probably return 3 or 4K through e-bay.

To restore a car properly is a folly financially unless its worth big money when its restored. TVRs built after the 1960s don't come into that category.

central

16,745 posts

247 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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gadgit

971 posts

297 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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What has it actually failed the MOT on Frazer????........outriggers I'm guessing!!

As some have said its not worth breaking the bank £4000 + on a rebuild of a older car unless you are in love with it and engaged.

Far better to fix the problem it failed with in the first place and move on, if you want to. If you are going to keep the car forever then thats fine.

Welding the corners (outriggers) works out at about £250 a corner without removing the body if the rest is ok. So you are looking at about £1200-1300 max for a good job.

Two Specialist do this to my knowledge, Offord TVR (Huntingdon) and Sportmotive TVR.
They will not do the job if the car has gone to far. All you need to do is ring up and make an appointment and they will advise you what your best solution is. As you can't do the work yourself you need to take the easy option, cos otherwise you will be broke in two years time cos this cost thing won't stop. £1000 or so at this stage, with bills to show of the work to a buyer should get you the money you spent back easy......thats what its all about.....Great drivng at a reasonable cost!!........Thas my theory!!!!!!!!!!!1

Edited by gadgit on Saturday 17th November 20:20

TravelsVeryRapid

516 posts

308 months

Saturday 17th November 2007
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Daftlad said:
900T-R said:
Daftlad said:
Sell it and buy another that has been well looked after. Its not worth the outlay.
Ehm, who'll buy a Chimaera that failed its MOT due to a chassis issue at anything but absolute rock bottom? The way I see it, by the time it's priced low enough to make it an interesting prospect for someone else, you could as well (or better) have it repaired yourself.
A failed MOT car can be broken and would probably return 3 or 4K through e-bay.

To restore a car properly is a folly financially unless its worth big money when its restored. TVRs built after the 1960s don't come into that category.
Mine has been looked after, it's been waxoiled annually but it still went rusty. If I was to get a newer one I would still have the same problem to worry about in a few years. It's very difficult to see the real state of the chassis until the body has been removed. It was a lot of money but I am now safe in the knowledge that it will be OK for a long time, and it drives far better than ever. As for the value I don't really care as I don't intend selling it.

Regards,

Steve.

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Sunday 18th November 2007
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Daftlad said:


To restore a car properly is a folly financially unless its worth big money when its restored. TVRs built after the 1960s don't come into that category.
That's merely a question of time - arguably the 1990s were TVR's decade with it for the frist time getting nearly universal recognition as a 'serious' sports car maker rather than a builder of barely-glorified kit cars, and the motoring public's exposure to the marque being far more widespread and intense than in the 1960s whilst volumes being still relatively low compared to other sports car makes (7,000 or so Chimaeras in ten years are not that much in the grand scheme of things). Especially given the current attrition rate! That, and latter-day examples of the breed represent a type of car and driving experience which our children are unlikely to be able to buy from a 2020 new car showroom.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if in 10-15 years time Griffiths, Chimaeras and Cerberas will be where the various Cobras are now in the classic sportscar marketplace.

900T-R

20,406 posts

287 months

Sunday 18th November 2007
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TravelsVeryRapid said:
Mine has been looked after, it's been waxoiled annually but it still went rusty. If I was to get a newer one I would still have the same problem to worry about in a few years.
Exactly - I've been advocating the 'better the devil you know' approach for years. It's not like someone else's six year old car will be in pristine condition in three years' time if your nine year old one is troublesome. Or you must have a really low opinion of how you're looking after your own possessions relative to others...