Rise in Car Tax - will it effect us?

[jilapau]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7498884.stm
All this talk in the news today of a rise in car tax for vehicles made after 2001. My Tuscan is a 2001 model. I currently pay £180. Do you think we will be effected by this tax increase?

[Polarbert]

Its a funny one, some people are and some people aren't.

There are cases I've read on here where people with later Tuscans and T350s have the carbon emissions recorded on the V5 and others where its a big fat 0.

Some have to pay 300 quid or there abouts, others 180.

I think those who pay 180 will continue to do so though.

[optimax sniffer]

All TVR's should not be currently paying more than £185 due to them being from a low volume manufacturer. If your vehicle has got a co2 rating, you can re-apply and get in put to zero.

[Silent1]

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[Gerald-TVR]

Useful lookup for VED

here

[Fly Boy]

Gerald-TVR said:

Useful lookup for VED

here

Nice link Gerald.
Do you think the bobbing rastards will leave this loop hole open???
Probably not, remember they removed all the other tax loopholes when they were pushing self employed peeps to go down the ltd co route a few years back

[imuir]

Just bought a 2008 reg Tuscan and its £185

Edited by imuir on Friday 11th July 09:00

[Buffoon]

Make the most of it now. Cerb like all TVR's in at £185 and the E-Type just creeps in at zero tax being a classic, but only by a matter of months. Dirty scumbags have already put the date back for classics (how does that work? Surely the date should go forward each year?) Guarantee that within a couple of years I'll get robbed on both vehicles, even though I'm poring my hard earned pennies into their coffers via the petrol pumps. Thieving Frs

[bobbins]

Couldn't put it better than Buffoon. Only a matter of time before the rest of us get a nasty shock.

[Road Hog]

WHY DO WE TOLLERATE THESE IDIOTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR "US"


me thinks they are just taking the P£££ OUT OF US.

[WazzaL]

Agree there..

Petrol is so expensive now, it actually saves me money (after 2 years) to buy a 2nd car, (cheap and economical) and run that as well!

[Fiscracer]

Just remember at the next election and vote accordingly................

I have four road cars, so it is getting ridiculous. What it does mean is my 2000 5 series estate will be run and run and run rather than replaced.

R

[optimax sniffer]

Should the tax double for example, £185 is only 600 odd miles in fuel, assuming £1.30 per litre and 20 mpg.

[Buffoon]

optimax sniffer said:

Should the tax double for example, £185 is only 600 odd miles in fuel, assuming £1.30 per litre and 20 mpg.

Spot on. Road Tax is something to gripe about, but won't change anything.
Some woman on the telly the other week was complaining if it goes up she will have to stop driving, lose her job etc. Rubbish. Maintenance, depreciation, insurance, fuel etc are killers. Just look at what people pay for their Tele License, Sky, Broadband etc. Rather pay my Tax and go for a Hoon.

[griffter]

Buffoon said:

optimax sniffer said:

Should the tax double for example, £185 is only 600 odd miles in fuel, assuming £1.30 per litre and 20 mpg.

Spot on. Road Tax is something to gripe about, but won't change anything.
Some woman on the telly the other week was complaining if it goes up she will have to stop driving, lose her job etc. Rubbish. Maintenance, depreciation, insurance, fuel etc are killers. Just look at what people pay for their Tele License, Sky, Broadband etc. Rather pay my Tax and go for a Hoon.

You're not wrong, but the point is all those can be reduced or mitigated by shopping around (or foregoing completely). Road tax can't - you pay the same whether you drive your car every day, or once a month.

The thing that really irritates me is that anyone who proposes this sort of retrospective nastiness without foreseeing the unreasonableness or the public reaction is perhaps not best suited to the job. Backtracking and changing it is all very well (if it happens) but it should be a dismissable offence to have proposed it in the first place. It's pretty obvious what the consequences of increasing tax so drastically on used cars will be - and the public reaction.

[noddy2]

Piease, please, please, please, stop discussing this on public forums or you know what will happen.

[H10TVR]

noddy2 said:

Piease, please, please, please, stop discussing this on public forums or you know what will happen.

Spot On Noddy 2 ..

Dogs,Sleeping & let are three words that spring to mind.

[tvrgit]

H10TVR said:

noddy2 said:

Piease, please, please, please, stop discussing this on public forums or you know what will happen.

Spot On Noddy 2 ..

Dogs,Sleeping & let are three words that spring to mind.

You missed out "lie".

No wait hang on, we know who can do that best...

[Timja]

griffter said:

Buffoon said:

optimax sniffer said:

Should the tax double for example, £185 is only 600 odd miles in fuel, assuming £1.30 per litre and 20 mpg.

Spot on. Road Tax is something to gripe about, but won't change anything.
Some woman on the telly the other week was complaining if it goes up she will have to stop driving, lose her job etc. Rubbish. Maintenance, depreciation, insurance, fuel etc are killers. Just look at what people pay for their Tele License, Sky, Broadband etc. Rather pay my Tax and go for a Hoon.

You're not wrong, but the point is all those can be reduced or mitigated by shopping around (or foregoing completely). Road tax can't - you pay the same whether you drive your car every day, or once a month.

.

Exactly - I wish they could put up petrol and do away with Road Fund Licence That way People who drive more pay more towards repairing and maintaining roads, and those who take there cars out once a month, or do low mileage will pay much less. I don't see why someone who drives 1000miles a year should pay the same as someone who is driving 30000 miles a year, clearly causing more pollution and wearing out the roads.

ETA - Obviously i don't want petrol prices to rise, but i think it would be fairer to do it this way. Someone who drives 1000 miles in a Ferrari is going to be doing less damage to the roads and environment than someone driving 30000 in a diesel 1.4 etc.

Edited by Timja on Saturday 12th July 08:40

[pringli]

Timja said:

griffter said:

Buffoon said:

optimax sniffer said:

Should the tax double for example, £185 is only 600 odd miles in fuel, assuming £1.30 per litre and 20 mpg.

Spot on. Road Tax is something to gripe about, but won't change anything.
Some woman on the telly the other week was complaining if it goes up she will have to stop driving, lose her job etc. Rubbish. Maintenance, depreciation, insurance, fuel etc are killers. Just look at what people pay for their Tele License, Sky, Broadband etc. Rather pay my Tax and go for a Hoon.

You're not wrong, but the point is all those can be reduced or mitigated by shopping around (or foregoing completely). Road tax can't - you pay the same whether you drive your car every day, or once a month.

.

Exactly - I wish they could put up petrol and do away with Road Fund Licence That way People who drive more pay more towards repairing and maintaining roads, and those who take there cars out once a month, or do low mileage will pay much less. I don't see why someone who drives 1000miles a year should pay the same as someone who is driving 30000 miles a year, clearly causing more pollution and wearing out the roads.

ETA - Obviously i don't want petrol prices to rise, but i think it would be fairer to do it this way. Someone who drives 1000 miles in a Ferrari is going to be doing less damage to the roads and environment than someone driving 30000 in a diesel 1.4 etc.

Edited by Timja on Saturday 12th July 08:40

I disagree - thats effectively a punishment on those of us who drive vehicles with higher fuel consumption. In my view there should be no such thing as zero rated vehicles (except classics) such as hybrids and other sad b*stard shopping cars, and tax those foreign f*ckers who bring their wagons over here full of cheap foreign fuel(and illegals) and contribute NOTHING AT ALL (except congestion) to this kingdom.