Leven Pedals

[thenick]

Anyone used them? Are they any good? My standard ones are proving an arse to get level and hence aren't very nice for heel and toe especially on the track. Ripping them out and replacing with leven's wider ones looks like it might sort out the problem.. Thoughts?

[shake n bake]

they're good, i prefer them. get them!

[glow worm]

I've got them on my Chim. Because its a 2001 450 it has Cerb seats and I couldn't get the seat close enough to be really comfortable fully depressing the clutch... (I'm about 5'8")... So I fitted the ones with longer stems.... Solved the problem...Look great...I don't heel and toe, except when I'm messing about...but would be a lot better since they're wider and also the brake and accelerator pedal are now level with each other.

[Mark_G]

I put a set on my Griff - they are a good improvement and fully adjustable - I've had them set up with the brake and accelerator closer together to improve heal / toe (also moved the brake position so that when depressed it lines up better with the accelerator). Recommended.

[Rocket Pepper]

I've been thinking about this for sometime, but I have good pedal feel between brake and throttle. My problem is the gap between clutch and brake. It's wide enough to make left foot braking too much of a leg movement rather than moving feet, it makes it so difficult you lose momentum and concentration. Thus I was hoping to make the brake pedal wider on the left side and move the clutch pedal slightly to the right. But I didn't want to lose the relationship already there with brake and throttle pedal.

[97octane]

Not sure why you have a problem getting the pedals to the right level. No problem on my Griff even for a total numpty like me!

[gwiz]

no brainer get them fitted makes heel n toe changes so much easier.

[Rocket Pepper]

I don't have a problem with the level of either pedals. In fact all three are perfect in that respect and I can use the sides of my right foot very sweetly on brake and throttle together when I wish.

As I said, the problem is left foot braking - as the gap from the clutch pedal to the brake pedal is wide enough to make left foot braking an involved movement of the leg rather than just a left foot move. So much so it is impossible to do so in the quick fashion left foot braking requires. As it is, left foot braking is clumsy and awkward making fast swapping pedal control not possible.

I'm told that some who race(d) Griff's bend the clutch pedal across to the right so it sits closer to the brake pedal in order to achieve left foot braking. I've not seen it done and am mindful of the close proximity of the lower steer column, and didn't want to find a problem with interference there. So I thought I'd wait until somewhere I'd see a Griff with bent pedal I could reference off.

My point in this thread was, is there any significant sideways adjustment with the Leven pedals - as in not just PEDAL LEVEL.

TIA

Rocket

[Mark_G]

if I remember correctly, basically the pedals are asymetric on their fitting - this means that they can be rotated through 180 degrees to adjust the width between the clutch / brake / accelerator. Probably worth a call to Simon to check this tho'

[Uncle Fester]

Mark_G said:

if I remember correctly, basically the pedals are asymetric on their fitting - this means that they can be rotated through 180 degrees to adjust the width between the clutch / brake / accelerator. Probably worth a call to Simon to check this tho'

Yep, they do and it makes a big improvement.

I tried cars with both standard and Leven pedals when I was buying my car. If you have big feet then the standard are IMHO, better. If you have more normal size feet then the Leven are better.

[Pupp]

Uncle Fester said:

Mark_G said:

if I remember correctly, basically the pedals are asymetric on their fitting - this means that they can be rotated through 180 degrees to adjust the width between the clutch / brake / accelerator. Probably worth a call to Simon to check this tho'

Yep, they do and it makes a big improvement.

I tried cars with both standard and Leven pedals when I was buying my car. If you have big feet then the standard are IMHO, better. If you have more normal size feet then the Leven are better.

Quality mod, worlds better than the nasty stock stuff and adjustable enough for me

[Sam Gamgee]

So......get em!!!

Dave.

[Rocket Pepper]

Mark_G said:

if I remember correctly, basically the pedals are asymetric on their fitting

Thanks Mark. That's the answer to the question I'd asked a few previously. I'll be purchasing soon enough.

Rocket

[glow worm]

The main point is that brake and clutch are just straight replacements of stem&rubber , whereas the accelerator requires replacement of the complete arm to provide an adjustable throttle pedal aswell rather than the original fixed postion.

[Mark_G]

Rocket Pepper said:

Thanks Mark. That's the answer to the question I'd asked a few previously. I'll be purchasing soon enough.

Rocket

To quote Douglas Adams "glad to be of service"

[thenick]

Cheers guys, what a response! Sounds like I shall be purchasing a set soon... The reason I can't get them level is mainly due to the accelerator. I've wound my brake all the way to the end of the thread and its still a fair bit further forward than the accelerator. The accelerator isn't adjustable at its resting position and it naturally hangs there. The clutch is ok but could do with being a bit further to the right as rocket pepper mentioned.

The problem has become even more apparent since I put a set of Wilwood brakes on as the brake now needs much less effort to have an effect, so the fact that it is a good inch and a bit in front of the accelerator means that heel and toe changes can easily end in me almost headbutting the windscreen if i'm not very careful. Being able to bring the accelerator forward and having wider pedals would make the whole lot much nicer...

Then I'll just need to cut the clutch slave push rod down a bit to bring the bite point back down where it should be and I'll be sorted! (Long story)

[V8 Animal]

thenick said:

Cheers guys, what a response! Sounds like I shall be purchasing a set soon... The reason I can't get them level is mainly due to the accelerator. I've wound my brake all the way to the end of the thread and its still a fair bit further forward than the accelerator. The accelerator isn't adjustable at its resting position and it naturally hangs there. The clutch is ok but could do with being a bit further to the right as rocket pepper mentioned.

The problem has become even more apparent since I put a set of Wilwood brakes on as the brake now needs much less effort to have an effect, so the fact that it is a good inch and a bit in front of the accelerator means that heel and toe changes can easily end in me almost headbutting the windscreen if i'm not very careful. Being able to bring the accelerator forward and having wider pedals would make the whole lot much nicer...

Then I'll just need to cut the clutch slave push rod down a bit to bring the bite point back down where it should be and I'll be sorted! (Long story)

If you don't allready know you can adjust the gas pedal i did all 3 at the weekend.

[V8 GRF]

V8 Animal said:

If you don't allready know you can adjust the gas pedal i did all 3 at the weekend.

IIRC all cars came from TVR with a fixed and welded accelerator if you can adjust yours that suggests you've already got Leven pedals. (Unless that's what you're saying)

[slideways]

get um their great

[thenick]

V8 GRF said:

V8 Animal said:

If you don't allready know you can adjust the gas pedal i did all 3 at the weekend.

IIRC all cars came from TVR with a fixed and welded accelerator if you can adjust yours that suggests you've already got Leven pedals. (Unless that's what you're saying)

Agreed! Mine is also welded to its arm and the resting position is determined by gravity alone. There is an adjustable throttle stop but that obviously doesn't help with pedal position...