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MATHEW

Original Poster:

235 posts

298 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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I want to upgrade to a Tuscan
What answer I am trying to find is should I just go for it and get the Tuscan and worry about the engine or do I just stick with the Griff 500.
I know there has been many topics on this but I just dont know what to do.

ehasler

8,579 posts

311 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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If you want to do it, then do it!

I went from a Griff 500 (owned from new for 3 years) to a new Tuscan S, and although I'll always miss that V8 burble, the Tuscan is an awesome car, and I have no regrets at all.

Try one, and go into it with your eyes open, but they're not as unreliable as some people make out so don't let that put you off.

Bassfiend

5,530 posts

278 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Do you fit a Tuscan? I had my first sit in one at the weekend and I don't.

Then again I am a more "ample" build...

Phil

MOWER MAN

88 posts

286 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Keep the Griff and buy a tuscan.Best of both worlds. I had the same problem,orded new tuscan took delivery in June and kept my Chimaera.No probs with tuscan now up to 4K.

MATHEW

Original Poster:

235 posts

298 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Yes I fit fine, test drove a Tuscan S last week no problems appart from the clutch pedle being very close to the brake.
I cannot afford to keep the Griff 500

ehasler

8,579 posts

311 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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MATHEW said:
no problems appart from the clutch pedle being very close to the brake.

Not heard of this being a problem before - I even drove mine in hiking boots yesterday without a problem!

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

286 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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As long as you steer clear from the very early Tuscans, you should be ok.

Go for it, I loved ours till Fish traded it in

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

276 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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I get the impression that the engine is pretty much sorted now. Just be careful if you're buying second hand. i.e. make sure that all the bits have been done or given a clean bill of health.

JonRB

79,972 posts

300 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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You can't expect other people to make a "yes or no" decision for you over whether to buy a car or not.

Which one does your heart say you should do?

(Use the Force, Luke )

>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 20th October 15:34

Lee02

393 posts

279 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Bassfiend said:
Do you fit a Tuscan? I had my first sit in one at the weekend and I don't.

Then again I am a more "ample" build...

Phil


How big are you?
I am 6ft and not thin at all and have no problem

I had a griff loved it,the tuscan is a different beast.IMHO it is a more complete car all the annoying details seem to be sorted.
If you have the money go for it just buy the latest car possible and enjoy

simpo two

92,570 posts

293 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Not a WINDOWCLEANER by any chance?

DMc

711 posts

282 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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My dad moved from a chim 400 to a Tuscan round about 5 mouths ago no probs yet

bassfiend

5,530 posts

278 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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Lee02 said:
How big are you?
I am 6ft and not thin at all and have no problem


6'3" and (*cough*) about 19 stone...

Phil

chimburt

751 posts

287 months

Monday 20th October 2003
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ok. i'm not going to enter 'that' debate.
here we go......

i'm in no position to buy such a lovely car, but i don't know if i would, because confidence in the engine seems to be lacking.
i don't mean my confidence, but as someone pointed out, tuscan prices drop, griff prices firm up and IMO this is due to folks buying the 'top of the tree' Rover rather than take a *perceived* risk on the AJP.

there are an increased number of tvr specific bits, which means regular stuff will cost more - but you already know about that because you've looked into this quite thoroughly, i would have thought?.......
servicing costs are substatially diferent.

you'll have to make up your own mind about that. sorry.

i would just ask myself the question "can i afford it IF it goes wrong"
if the answer is 'yes' then for me things would be pretty straightforward.

nubbin

6,809 posts

306 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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Ah, the old "Rover V8 vs Speed 6" debate again!

Griff prices are good at the moment because they reflect the "classic" status that they are gradually accumulating.

Avoiding early Tuscans is good advice. The newer the S6 engine, the better it will be, and if you want a Tuscan try to go for the S, whose engines have stronger internals to cope with the power hike. (I understand the RR conversion includes conrods, valve stem etc. changes to beef up the strength).

A Tuscan S will certainly give you a velocity increase over the Griff! The power delivery is much more user friendly, and the interiors are stunning. It also has a boot

In short, go and have a good long test drive in a Tuscan, and if you get that feeling, be it yes or no, then you MUST act on that feeling!

Oh, and sell the Griff privately - loadsamoney!!

andyvdg

1,537 posts

311 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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I think I would buy a good condition early Tuscan over a newer one that wasn't as good. As long as you understand the car's mechanical history and budget appropriately an early car could be a very very good bargin.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Andy.

MATHEW

Original Poster:

235 posts

298 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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Thanks Andy
That is what I am looking to do get a 2000 or 2001 Tuscan as that is what I can afford at the moment.
If I could afford a Tuscan S then sure I would look at one but as the Tuscan would be like my Griff, a car garaged all week and used at the weekends then I would not be prepared to spend 40K+ on one.
I am looking to buy private but would then want to get a Warranty on the engine.
Is this possible and if so who does the warranties?
Cheers
Mathew

Lee02

393 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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simpo two said:
Not a WINDOWCLEANER by any chance?

No Carpenter And I do really own a Tuscan.

The debate over how good or bad the sp6 is will run for years. But with 2000+ units built how many have really broken?
IMHO Tuscan prices have fallen because of three reasons.
1 People falling in love with the looks/performance of the car not really knowing what it is they were buying when they should have bought porsches, then selling 12 months later
2 probably for the same reason as above people crashing there new Tuscans forcing insurance up
3 T350
I think tuscans will bottom out soon.Service costs are dearer but not conciderably, bear in mind you are running a newer car less will be worn out.I spent more on my griff than i do on my tuscan
If you can find a late one privately you may still have the factory waranty
Go for a long test drive and decide

jigs

1,840 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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As you're asking I think you must have the classic dilema - you heart says YES but your head says NO - ask the rest of your anatomy.

Big_M

5,602 posts

291 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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Think Mr Big mentioned that he saw a 2000 model on Autotrader today for about £22k with 10k miles on the clock.

Think he is already spending my endowment that matures next year.