Ben Samuelson’s letter to EVO this month…
Ben Samuelson’s letter to EVO this month…
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d_drinks

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1,426 posts

297 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Got my copy of EVO through the post yesterday and was surprised to see this in the letters section:

I read with interest that Ferrari has come up with the revolutionary idea of putting the engine in the front of their cars behind the front wheels - ie front mid engined you might remember that we at TVR have benn doing it sine 1947 and indeed there weren't many pre-war sporting cars that didn't have that configuration. Just because a press release has a dancing donkey on the top of it doesn't mean you've got to believe it...........
Ben Samuelson, TVR

Not sure if this really is Baldrick or not but a worthy quote nevertheless

Another letter from a John Foley Evanston, Illinois USA reg TVR back to the US said Peter Wheel has the potential to be the next Enzo Ferrari

sparkyjohn

1,198 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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d_drinks said:
Another letter from a John Foley Evanston, Illinois USA reg TVR back to the US said Peter Wheel has the potential to be the next Enzo Ferrari

Coffee, keyboard interface.

JonRB

79,975 posts

300 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Yeah, I read that article in EVO last month and thought "hold on, what have TVR and Caterham been doing for the pasy 40-odd years then?", but I must confess I didn't get off my lazy arse and write a letter to EVO.

>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 3rd December 11:44

Podie

46,649 posts

303 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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JonRB said:
Yeah, I read that article in EVO last month and thought "hold on, what have TVR and Caterham been doing for the pasy 40-odd years then?", but I must confess I didn't get off my lazy arse and write a letter to EVO.

>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 3rd December 11:44


Makes 2 of us...

chimhunter

906 posts

277 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Honda S2000 has the engine WAY behind the front axle too. That gets 50/50 weight distribution as well.

Marketing PR spin by Ferrari anyone?

fatbuttfast

136 posts

289 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Podie said:

JonRB said:
but I must confess I didn't get off my lazy arse and write a letter to EVO.

>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 3rd December 11:44



Makes 2 of us...


Make that 3 and more.
I also thought the same....and also did not bother to reply. It was a crap piece of journo in what is usually a very good mag.
Perhaps my copy will arrive in the post today.

Podie

46,649 posts

303 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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chimhunter said:
Honda S2000 has the engine WAY behind the front axle too. That gets 50/50 weight distribution as well.

Marketing PR spin by Ferrari anyone?


... or poor editing...?

manek

2,978 posts

312 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Podie said:

chimhunter said:
Honda S2000 has the engine WAY behind the front axle too. That gets 50/50 weight distribution as well.

Marketing PR spin by Ferrari anyone?



... or poor editing...?

Quite so: sloppy journalism. Just because it's in a press release don't make it so.

cacatous

3,173 posts

301 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Also isn't that what Mercedes McLaren have done with the SLR?

Podie

46,649 posts

303 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Ben Samuelson wrote said:
Just because a press release has a dancing donkey on the top of it doesn't mean you've got to believe it...........


Miaow...!

ATG

23,608 posts

300 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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yup. Saw it too and couldn't be arsed to write in. Glad someone did though. I may know FA about cars, but even I knew that much ...

RichB

56,153 posts

312 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Podie said:

chimhunter said:
Honda S2000 has the engine WAY behind the front axle too. That gets 50/50 weight distribution as well. Marketing PR spin by Ferrari anyone?
... or poor editing...?
Good for Ben, and no reason why it shouldn't be a letter from him is there? I saw this new Ferrari "mid-front" concept mentioned at least twice in EVO and also in Autocar, and thought exactly the same as the rest of you. In fact I remember reading some of the early 90's stuff about the Griffith having its engine so far back that the rear pair of spark plugs were tucked under the driver's bulkhead, in order to get a 50/50 balance. Also that Peter Wheeler believed it to be safer to have the lump in front of the driver rather than behind. Like you, I couldn't be bothered to write to EVO 'cos I no longer regard it as an authorative journal on sports/performance cars (like MotorSport used to be) but just an entertaining read. Rich...

DustyC

12,822 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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d_drinks said:
Got my copy of EVO through the post yesterday and was surprised to see this in the letters section:

I read with interest that Ferrari has come up with the revolutionary idea of putting the engine in the front of their cars behind the front wheels - ie front mid engined you might remember that we at TVR have benn doing it sine 1947 and indeed there weren't many pre-war sporting cars that didn't have that configuration. Just because a press release has a dancing donkey on the top of it doesn't mean you've got to believe it...........
Ben Samuelson, TVR

Not sure if this really is Baldrick or not but a worthy quote nevertheless

Another letter from a John Foley Evanston, Illinois USA reg TVR back to the US said Peter Wheel has the potential to be the next Enzo Ferrari


I just read it this morning too. Excellent

On the same note...
Anyone seen the letter from TVR pinned to the notice board in Adrian Blyths? Its very good

DustyC

12,822 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Podie said:

JonRB said:
Yeah, I read that article in EVO last month and thought "hold on, what have TVR and Caterham been doing for the pasy 40-odd years then?", but I must confess I didn't get off my lazy arse and write a letter to EVO.

>> Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 3rd December 11:44


Theres loads of others to add to that list too.
I thought it when I read last weeks article too. I reckon it may have been printed with haste.

Makes 2 of us...

DustyC

12,822 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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RichB said:

Like you, I couldn't be bothered to write to EVO 'cos I no longer regard it as an authorative journal on sports/performance cars (like MotorSport used to be) but just an entertaining read. Rich...


It does appear to have got that way.
Or is it that I get all the info I need here now?!

Excuse the triple posting. It was easier than trying to do it all in one!

Swilly

9,699 posts

302 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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DustyC said:
On the same note...
Anyone seen the letter from TVR pinned to the notice board in Adrian Blyths? Its very good



No, care to share the contents?

RichB

56,153 posts

312 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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Is it around this time that "Tommo" (Peter Tomalin) comes on and tells us we are wrong! Rich...

p.s. I still have a bone to pick with him from one of his posts from last month

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

289 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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DustyC said:

d_drinks said:
Got my copy of EVO through the post yesterday and was surprised to see this in the letters section:

I read with interest that Ferrari has come up with the revolutionary idea of putting the engine in the front of their cars behind the front wheels - ie front mid engined you might remember that we at TVR have benn doing it sine 1947 and indeed there weren't many pre-war sporting cars that didn't have that configuration. Just because a press release has a dancing donkey on the top of it doesn't mean you've got to believe it...........
Ben Samuelson, TVR

Not sure if this really is Baldrick or not but a worthy quote nevertheless

Another letter from a John Foley Evanston, Illinois USA reg TVR back to the US said Peter Wheel has the potential to be the next Enzo Ferrari



I just read it this morning too. Excellent

On the same note...
Anyone seen the letter from TVR pinned to the notice board in Adrian Blyths? Its very good


Dusty,

Yep read that note when I bought my first TVR (Chim) from Adrian...

Alan.

granville

18,764 posts

289 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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EVO - ah yes, the magazine where subscribers who live anywhere but Lizard Point receive their edition several aeons after the last copy to be displayed by Sheila McDougal in The Outpost, a small newstand at the head of the last pier in Thurso.

You don't get this kind of problem with Rustler, according to esteemed colleagues.


Bierhoff.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

298 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2003
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derestrictor said:
You don't get this kind of problem with Rustler, according to esteemed colleagues.


Bierhoff.


Nope, they always come early...

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