Alternative fully mappable ECU?
Alternative fully mappable ECU?
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dbv8

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8,676 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Im looking into making the move into the wonderful world of mappable ignition and fuelling from an aftermarket ECU etc.
I realize the likes of Emerald and megasquirt have their fans but ive seen an alternative that looks interesting and wondering if anyone can point out any possible shortcomings or disadvantages.
I want a system that I can retune myself to some degree and more importantly to automatically switch maps to suit when my nitrous oxide system is activated.

http://www.lloydspecialistdevelopments.co.uk/engin...

Pupp

12,951 posts

301 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Looks good value if as capapble as claimed. Must admit it's a new one on me...

Be worth just establishing how the map switching works and whether it's possible on the fly.

2Munkys

1,228 posts

266 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Hmm, interesting Del. A one-stop would be nice. I'm still contemplating the subject of ECU's myself. Give 'em a call and come back with your thoughts/findings.

LordGrover

34,164 posts

241 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Unlike most TVR johnnys, they're not too far from me. May pay them a visit if Winter ever ends.

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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LordGrover said:
Unlike most TVR johnnys, they're not too far from me. May pay them a visit if Winter ever ends.
Its ended LG! now get ya car out and play wink they're even closer to me, was just thinking about a little drive this afternoon scratchchin

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Are you being coy about your car LG or have you had it breathed on over the winter like you were pondering?

dbv8

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8,676 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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They are based just a few miles from my Sisters in Radstock so i was going to combine the visit when i get down.

Seems it may be ideal for my purpose although i would like more than 2 maps if its possible.
Heres a snippet from an email from them....
'Our V4 custom engine management system incorporates many advanced features as standard that may be of interest to you. These features include full nitrous control, launch control, dual maps (on fly) & OEM stepper motor control.

Dual fuel and ignition maps are easily configured from the software interface. Map switching can be triggered based on a number of inputs; this could easily be connected to change maps on activation of the NOS. The second spark timing map would be tuned to take maximum advantage of the faster burning characteristics of the nitrous.

This kit dispenses with the restrictive airflow meter taking load signals from MAP, TPS and an air temperature sensor.'
'Full rolling road (Dyno Dynamics) mapping for a Rover V8 with additional nitrous maps would cost £350.'

They have a Chimaera 400 they have developed and had great success with and they seem genuinely interested and enthusiastic about developing my car.
They offered a good discount on a fitting service but i realized i cut fit this system myself. Some parts such as the crank tigger wheel i can fit ahead as i rebuil my engine.


LordGrover

34,164 posts

241 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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It's barely turned a wheel. redface Looking very sorry for itself on the drive - thankfully now snowless.

Still haven't decided what to do with it yet. rolleyes

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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LordGrover said:
Still haven't decided what to do with it yet. rolleyes
Slacker! tongue out

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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LordGrover said:
It's barely turned a wheel. redface Looking very sorry for itself on the drive - thankfully now snowless.

Still haven't decided what to do with it yet. rolleyes
So we're going to see the annual advert are we? hehe

Just drive, it I think you've found it's limits without spending loads on a rebuild and that would spoil the character of it I think.


Bluebottle

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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V8 GRF said:
So we're going to see the annual advert are we? hehe
hehehehe

LordGrover

34,164 posts

241 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Sorry for o/t OP

dbv8

Original Poster:

8,676 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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LordGrover said:



Sorry for o/t OP
No problem.
I do it all the time. Any mention of nitrous or 1/4 mile times and im in hehe

Bassfiend

5,530 posts

279 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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dbv8 said:
I do it all the time. Any mention of nitrous or 1/4 mile times and im in hehe
...and Mrs. DBV8 is fine with this? hehe

Looks a good find there - £1k for the "kit", £350 for mapping (Wonder if one map could be used to get the venerable old lump through an MOT without cats?) ... have emailed them to see if they do it as a fully fitted "drive-in drive-away" service...

Phil

dbv8

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8,676 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Bassfiend said:
dbv8 said:
I do it all the time. Any mention of nitrous or 1/4 mile times and im in hehe
...and Mrs. DBV8 is fine with this? hehe

Looks a good find there - £1k for the "kit", £350 for mapping (Wonder if one map could be used to get the venerable old lump through an MOT without cats?) ... have emailed them to see if they do it as a fully fitted "drive-in drive-away" service...

Phil
They do a fitting service but they say it can take upto 40 hours!
They may give a TVR enthusiast a discount on their hourly rate but fitting yourself will save you a princley sum IMO.
Money better spent elsewhere.

ps no 'Mrs' to worry about at the moment. Part of the reason i have a stripped TVR in the garage... nice

Bassfiend

5,530 posts

279 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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dbv8 said:
ps no 'Mrs' to worry about at the moment. Part of the reason i have a stripped TVR in the garage... nice
Nor here - and the reason I now have a TVR outside. wink

"Why are divorces so expensive?"

"Because nothing worthwhile is ever cheap..." hehe

Phil

Wildfire

9,948 posts

281 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Seems interesting keep us posted. I have a VEMS system and all the gubbins, wires and sensors, sitting on a shelf, yet to fit it though.

Graham

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313 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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one of the key factors will be whats the mapping software like and how easy is it to use. cant see any reference to that or screen grabs on the site

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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From what i see there seems to be no kit included to add a cam sensor/ or a modified dizzy. So batch injection only then


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lewis s

5,956 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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What would the comparable costs be then to an Emerald or Megasquirt etc with all of the same kit?