manifold coating colours
manifold coating colours
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hiltonig

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3,153 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Ok time for the manifolds to get done, thinking of Zircotek, done the matt black or silver what would people choose, they even do white !!, dont fancy cermachrome as its too blingy !!

What colour would you choose ?

http://www.zircotec.com/page/-_performance_colours...

hiltonig

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3,153 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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starmist crimson, black seats ,what do you think Q ?

Edited by hiltonig on Wednesday 3rd February 21:41

Johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Whatever you do it in you're going to be stuck with it for a while.

Easy for me as I only have black and silver in the engine bay apart from one piece of blue.

I'd consider the black, or the metallic black . . . or maybe the black smile

hiltonig

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237 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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might sound daft but can you get black bolts ??, the zinc ones I had in around the cats the surface bubbled up.

You nearly had me going !!tongue out

Johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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As an aside, why Zircotec instead of Camcoat . . . any particular reasoning ?

Johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Stainless bolts. . . they're not in a stressed area, except for the heat and provide a nice contrast against the black.


hiltonig

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3,153 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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only because the coating is more durable but more important the performance is better, that said it is more expensive but I only want to do it once

glow worm

7,428 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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My Speed Six manifolds and cats are with Zircotec at the moment, expecting them back this week or early next week. I'm having them done in Sterling Silver. I'll post some pics when they arrive back.
If I like them I'll get the Chims manifolds and Y section done in... probably in Sterling Silver, but I did think about either Alaskan Blue or a Dark Blue to match the car.



Edited by glow worm on Wednesday 3rd February 22:34

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Would be yellow or blue for me scratchchin

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

279 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Any indication of prices?

stimshady

1,323 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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I'd go for a dark grey.

Poledriver

29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Interesting website... Got to "Click Here to see our current range of Performance ColoursTM."
This opened in windows media player... Then click on next (right arrow) and see what you get! smile

hiltonig

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3,153 posts

237 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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sgrimshaw said:
Any indication of prices?
the performance range, for manifolds, cats, y piece quoted at £845

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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I think that camcoats quality in a lot of cases when considering cost leaves a lot to be desired.

at the best part of £1000 for a 3 piece manifold set I went a different route.

I went to a good old fashioned marine corrosion engineering company in wallsend and had my manifolds blasted and aluminium metal sprayed. Then a coating of very high temp matt silver over the top.

Cost all in £80

So I can get them re done every year for the next 10 years and it will still be cheaper.

Whilst underbonnet heat may be an issue to some, in which case Black is the only colour to go for i really think that all that money can be spent much more efficiently in other areas.

Neil.

Poledriver

29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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heightswitch said:
I think that camcoats quality in a lot of cases when considering cost leaves a lot to be desired.

at the best part of £1000 for a 3 piece manifold set I went a different route.

I went to a good old fashioned marine corrosion engineering company in wallsend and had my manifolds blasted and aluminium metal sprayed. Then a coating of very high temp matt silver over the top.

Cost all in £80

So I can get them re done every year for the next 10 years and it will still be cheaper.

Whilst underbonnet heat may be an issue to some, in which case Black is the only colour to go for i really think that all that money can be spent much more efficiently in other areas.

Neil.
Wrong! To reduce underbonnet heat they need to be silver, black will radiate more heat than any other colour!

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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White .. stand out from the crowd smile

gilbo

460 posts

229 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Speaking to Zircotec at the Autosport show, they informed me that White is their most thermally efficient colour and the one which will help reduce underbonnet temps the most. (hence why the turbo rallycross boys choose it.) Besides the colour choices they provide are all coated on top of the White Ceramic coat anyway so they will all be much of a muchness when it comes to actual efficiency. I also like the White!

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Poledriver said:
heightswitch said:
I think that camcoats quality in a lot of cases when considering cost leaves a lot to be desired.

at the best part of £1000 for a 3 piece manifold set I went a different route.

I went to a good old fashioned marine corrosion engineering company in wallsend and had my manifolds blasted and aluminium metal sprayed. Then a coating of very high temp matt silver over the top.

Cost all in £80

So I can get them re done every year for the next 10 years and it will still be cheaper.

Whilst underbonnet heat may be an issue to some, in which case Black is the only colour to go for i really think that all that money can be spent much more efficiently in other areas.

Neil.
Wrong! To reduce underbonnet heat they need to be silver, black will radiate more heat than any other colour!
http://www.camcoat.u-net.com/Coatings.htm

No my friend. Black absorbs heat. Bright colours Radiate heat. Generally a camcoat Black ceramic coating is the coating of choice to keep heat radiation in racing car engine bays down. The exception is the new tecnology white zircotec coating of which I have no experience, but I suspect it has more to do with the coating material than the colour.
N

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Don't confuse surface emissivity & insulation properties wink

I still think coating/insulating inside the pipes is a major benefit.

Poledriver

29,590 posts

223 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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heightswitch said:
Poledriver said:
heightswitch said:
I think that camcoats quality in a lot of cases when considering cost leaves a lot to be desired.

at the best part of £1000 for a 3 piece manifold set I went a different route.

I went to a good old fashioned marine corrosion engineering company in wallsend and had my manifolds blasted and aluminium metal sprayed. Then a coating of very high temp matt silver over the top.

Cost all in £80

So I can get them re done every year for the next 10 years and it will still be cheaper.

Whilst underbonnet heat may be an issue to some, in which case Black is the only colour to go for i really think that all that money can be spent much more efficiently in other areas.

Neil.
Wrong! To reduce underbonnet heat they need to be silver, black will radiate more heat than any other colour!
http://www.camcoat.u-net.com/Coatings.htm

No my friend. Black absorbs heat. Bright colours Radiate heat. Generally a camcoat Black ceramic coating is the coating of choice to keep heat radiation in racing car engine bays down. The exception is the new tecnology white zircotec coating of which I have no experience, but I suspect it has more to do with the coating material than the colour.
N
Bright colours reflect heat!
A black painted exhaust will absorb heat from the exhaust gases and heat up the manifold which will then radiate it to the surroundings (engine bay). A white/silver manifold will not heat up so much as the heat is reflected back into the exhaust gases and out of the back!