Test for outriggers - another dumb idea?
Test for outriggers - another dumb idea?
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Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

233 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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I've been having a think about how to be sure your outriggers are OK - my engine is with Rob Robertson at the moment and I had a eureka moment when he was talking about pressure testing my block.

How about pressure testing your outriggers?

So you would need to weld in a pipe union to the outriggers so you could introduce some compressed air - then you pressurise them and see if they hold for say 24 hours. If they don't hold it may also help to find the problem with the air hissing out assuming they aren't like a tea bag.

If they do hold of course then at least you can save yourself the aggro of a body off to check them out and give yourself a bit of peace of mind.



The Lukas

2,773 posts

223 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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It would check for holes, not necesarily for rust or strengh. A good idea, but kind of a last resort kind of check if you ask me. Still a good idea but not something I'd soley rely on as it seems a rather binary approach to it (it either needs urgent work or it has no rot at all).

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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No need .. just tap it along its length with a spanner or poke gently with a screw driver ..

Good steel sounds solid ..

Rust does not.

Try it on a know good area to get a feel for the different sound.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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doesn't compressed air have moisture in it? rust could attack from both side then biggrin

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Pvapour said:
doesn't compressed air have moisture in it? rust could attack from both side then biggrin
Now nitrogen presurisation could work.

Or Helium to help with kerb weight
hehe

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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The easiest way to check your outriggers is to use a fibre optic inspection camera that can be pushed into the gaps above your outriggers and the body.




JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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IIRC it was Peter Dumbreck driving a Porsche at Le Mans in the 80s when he noticed in practice that one guage did not move at all. Porsche's chief engineer explained that they had put a gas in the space frame and should a crack develop Peter should bring the car back to the pits carefully. "&*^% that he replied I'll park up on the circuit. As luck would have it a crack did develope during the race and he kept going, finding that the creaking and differing cornering were worsening from lap to lap but adjusting for this he completed the race whilst maintaining position; one of the most memorable Le Mans drives.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Pressure testing will show that the chassis was never fully welded when new!!

After undertaking a chassis restoration some years ago, we injected the cahssis tubes with waxoyl. To my ammusement, the waxoyl started to leak from the welds at all of the low points the first warm day the car was used....

NTEL

5,051 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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My chassis and roll cage is full of NOS so the other lads can't see a bottle. Don't tell any of the other Tuscan Challenge lads though. wink

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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NTEL said:
My chassis and roll cage is full of NOS so the other lads can't see a bottle. Don't tell any of the other Tuscan Challenge lads though. wink
Will you be using it this then year Dave laughlaugh

NTEL

5,051 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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TVR_owner said:
NTEL said:
My chassis and roll cage is full of NOS so the other lads can't see a bottle. Don't tell any of the other Tuscan Challenge lads though. wink
Will you be using it this then year Dave laughlaugh
John, I really hope that you think I am wink

TVRMARKUB

2,312 posts

208 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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NTEL said:
My chassis and roll cage are full of pork pies so I don't have to share em with the other lads. Don't tell any of the other Tuscan Challenge lads though. wink
yes

NTEL

5,051 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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TVRMARKUB said:
NTEL said:
My chassis and roll cage are full of pork pies so I don't have to share em with the other lads. Don't tell any of the other Tuscan Challenge lads though. wink
yes
rofl

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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NTEL said:
TVR_owner said:
NTEL said:
My chassis and roll cage is full of NOS so the other lads can't see a bottle. Don't tell any of the other Tuscan Challenge lads though. wink
Will you be using it this then year Dave laughlaugh
John, I really hope that you think I am wink
Never mind me, I'm just making up the numbers, no championship hopes.

You just need to stay ahead of those young bucks......


Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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JR said:
IIRC it was Peter Dumbreck driving a Porsche at Le Mans in the 80s when he noticed in practice that one guage did not move at all. Porsche's chief engineer explained that they had put a gas in the space frame and should a crack develop Peter should bring the car back to the pits carefully. "&*^% that he replied I'll park up on the circuit. As luck would have it a crack did develope during the race and he kept going, finding that the creaking and differing cornering were worsening from lap to lap but adjusting for this he completed the race whilst maintaining position; one of the most memorable Le Mans drives.
If you're interested in that. You might like the restoration a bunch of americans did. He'res a link to one of the youtube vids showing the chassis. Just behind the cat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C5dLpDPk9c&fea...

Gauge for the chassis at 1:34

Edited by Munter on Wednesday 31st March 08:06