Griffith popularity soars
Griffith popularity soars
Author
Discussion

lazyitus

Original Poster:

19,931 posts

295 months

Friday 12th March 2004
quotequote all
Well, for me anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my car before yesterday but now......

Took it to North Weald for the 1st Lotus experience yesterday. I now know that...

a) It is far more capable than people think, including myself.

b) In the right hands (Andrew Walshes), it is the perfect car to get big rewards from.

c) It will shine big time in the performance arena, both in outright power and handling.

d) After a 400 mile round trip with some serious thrashing in between, it got me home without a hint of misbehaviour.

e) It will need some new tyres soon!

If you have any doubts or misconceptions as to what your TVR can and can't do, go and get some tuition where you can't hit anything practicing.

The Griffith is a truely amazing car when you begin to understand what it really can do.

Get in!

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Friday 12th March 2004
quotequote all
I did a "Ride Drive" session last August. And yes I'm still raving about it !!!

Amazed at the handling when I got it onto the old airfield.........

marino

185 posts

281 months

Friday 12th March 2004
quotequote all
Good to see you enjoyed your day Jon, Andrew makes it seem so easy.

I was thinking of having another go soon as I want to build on what Andrew taught. Had already ordered my tyres, so changed them the following day.

Dave.

marino

185 posts

281 months

Friday 12th March 2004
quotequote all
Beano, I did Ride Drive but this is a different level as far as car control is concerned. It doesn't negate Ride Drive's techniques, it adds to them.

Dave.

andy lux

18 posts

273 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
marino said:
I did Ride Drive but this is a different level ....


...so is it better to do the Ride Drive first? I'm looking at getting some training at the moment but I'm not sure what is the best/most suitable.


mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
andy lux said:

marino said:
I did Ride Drive but this is a different level ....



...so is it better to do the Ride Drive first? I'm looking at getting some training at the moment but I'm not sure what is the best/most suitable.




I would have said that you can't go wrong with Ride/Drive. I learnt loads on my half day, nearly all of it without even realising I'd learnt it! I'm definitely going to do at least 1 full day this year, maybe 2.

k77-widow maker

910 posts

288 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
Which course did you do out of interest?

What sort of things did it cover etc, I take it you think the course is good value too!

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
I did the half-day, which is basically covers positioning, planning, gear selection/use, observation, indicators (use or not), stuff like that. The full day covers more advanced car control, including a section of off-road (not mud!).

I booked the half-day as I had no idea how tiring it might be, and if you're not sure either, book the half day first and see how you go. I've covered over 250,000 miles on motorbikes and 300,000 in cars, and I was surprised how much I learned, though Alex (my instructor for the course) says how much you learn depends on your attitude to learning, as much as anything. If you go with the attitude of wanting to learn through constructive criticism, you will come away much wiser. If you think you're a driving God, leave it until you're prepared to learn.

HTH

maggit

jigs

1,840 posts

279 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
Without doubt the Griffith as a performance driving machine is way ahead of most Griffith owners' driving abilities. I always think when I see someone wanting more power, etc or upgrading the engine, brakes, etc that the first thing needed would be improved performance driving skills to unleash the full potential of the standard package first.

oxbow

567 posts

279 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
Corsas and Saxos are far too much to handle than most of the dickheads that drive em can manage!

whitey

2,508 posts

313 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
jigs said:
Without doubt the Griffith as a performance driving machine is way ahead of most Griffith owners' driving abilities. I always think when I see someone wanting more power, etc or upgrading the engine, brakes, etc that the first thing needed would be improved performance driving skills to unleash the full potential of the standard package first.


It's the first thing I suggest you get JIGS along with AA cover before you pick up your Cat C repaired Tuscan for 12K in 2006.

Then again, maybe you are already a highly trained driver.

GarryM

1,113 posts

312 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
jigs said:
Without doubt the Griffith as a performance driving machine is way ahead of most Griffith owners' driving abilities. I always think when I see someone wanting more power, etc or upgrading the engine, brakes, etc that the first thing needed would be improved performance driving skills to unleash the full potential of the standard package first.

I'm inclined to agree but other reasons often prompt wanting upgrades. You don't have to be way ahead of the car to appreciate better braking or handling. Increasing power is a bit more difficult to justify if you're driving skills aren't finely honed but even then I suppose the motivation may be simply appreciating the increased grunt when blasting in a straight line. Each to their own I say.

Having said that, my wishes to upgrade have been put on hold having been driven around an airfield in my car by Andrew Walsh. I will upgrade - but only when existing parts have worn out. Often the upgrades are the same price as TVR originals anyway.

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
jigs said:
Without doubt the Griffith as a performance driving machine is way ahead of most Griffith owners' driving abilities. I always think when I see someone wanting more power, etc or upgrading the engine, brakes, etc that the first thing needed would be improved performance driving skills to unleash the full potential of the standard package first.


Thats the most sensible thing you have ever said!

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
DustyC said:

jigs said:
Without doubt the Griffith as a performance driving machine is way ahead of most Griffith owners' driving abilities. I always think ...that the first thing needed would be improved performance driving skills to unleash the full potential of the standard package first.



Thats the most sensible thing you have ever said!


[Big Al] Oh [/Big Al]

Why do I keep agreeing with you, jigs?!

Who said:
I reckon that a Ride Drive session is one of the best value for money upgrades you can give a car like this.

Oh - I did on my profile!

And see more about my views on RD: www.pistonheads.com/reviews/reviews.asp?id=225&r=683&c=62

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
Glad we all agree on this one, then.

marino

185 posts

281 months

Saturday 13th March 2004
quotequote all
andy lux said:

marino said:
I did Ride Drive but this is a different level ....



...so is it better to do the Ride Drive first? I'm looking at getting some training at the moment but I'm not sure what is the best/most suitable.




Ride Drive first. Helps you position car, read roads, avoid danger and drive briskly, safely. After all, they are public roads.

Andrew at 1st Lotus can then add techniques to further enhance the way you control a car, especially on a circuit.

Dave.

andy lux

18 posts

273 months

Sunday 14th March 2004
quotequote all
Excellent, cheers all. Will call Ride Drive this week and book a half day to start with. Is there anybody in particular I should talk to?

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Sunday 14th March 2004
quotequote all
Julian Smith is the chap that's most involved day to day, I think.

What they will do is allocate you to someone in your area - they have a large number of serving or recently-serving police officers to call on. I've met three of them and they're all super blokes

lazyitus

Original Poster:

19,931 posts

295 months

Sunday 14th March 2004
quotequote all
GarryM said:
Having said that, my wishes to upgrade have been put on hold having been driven around an airfield in my car by Andrew Walsh. I will upgrade - but only when existing parts have worn out. Often the upgrades are the same price as TVR originals anyway.


Absolutely spot on.