Insurance woes? Reclass as a kit car a solution?
Insurance woes? Reclass as a kit car a solution?
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sgrimshaw

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7,587 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Since it seems to becoming increasingly difficult to insure modified TVR's how's this for a thought.

From investigations I've done in the past, it seems that Kit Cars are relatively cheap to insure.

What defines a Kit Car?

If "plasticman" could be persuaded say to make some of his creations available as a full body kit, would the result then be classed as a Kit Car?

You could then thump any engine in it, and it wouldn't be a Modified TVR - but a Kit.

I am particularly thinking of his, in my view, cracking creation of the Tamora/Sagaris meld.

Imagine that with a LS7!

Same could be done with Chim/Griff chassis, or Cerb.

No, I haven't been drinking ... maybe I should.

Thoughts?

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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The issue you'd have of course is that it would lose the TVR description on the V5 and it would be replaced by another description which would then seriously effect it's value, the other danger is that it would be assigned a Q plate which are still somewhat of a stigma nd cannot be replaced with a 'cherished number'

I'm not 100% aufait with the new SVA/IVA regulations with regards to kits but as you'd be retaining the majority of the car and the chassis which has the identification number stamped on it it wouldn't need to have a new identity assigned.

I think teh short term insurance gain would be offset by the impact on value imo.


sgrimshaw

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Thursday 9th September 2010
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V8 GRF said:
The issue you'd have of course is that it would lose the TVR description on the V5 and it would be replaced by another description which would then seriously effect it's value, the other danger is that it would be assigned a Q plate which are still somewhat of a stigma nd cannot be replaced with a 'cherished number'

I'm not 100% aufait with the new SVA/IVA regulations with regards to kits but as you'd be retaining the majority of the car and the chassis which has the identification number stamped on it it wouldn't need to have a new identity assigned.

I think teh short term insurance gain would be offset by the impact on value imo.
If it doesn't get a new identity, then does it stay as a TVR on the V5?

Does putting a Chevy engine in a TVR make it "less" of a TVR anyway?

BTW - these are just ponderings - I have no intention of actually doing this!

It's just a what if exercise.


V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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sgrimshaw said:
V8 GRF said:
The issue you'd have of course is that it would lose the TVR description on the V5 and it would be replaced by another description which would then seriously effect it's value, the other danger is that it would be assigned a Q plate which are still somewhat of a stigma nd cannot be replaced with a 'cherished number'

I'm not 100% aufait with the new SVA/IVA regulations with regards to kits but as you'd be retaining the majority of the car and the chassis which has the identification number stamped on it it wouldn't need to have a new identity assigned.

I think teh short term insurance gain would be offset by the impact on value imo.
If it doesn't get a new identity, then does it stay as a TVR on the V5?

Does putting a Chevy engine in a TVR make it "less" of a TVR anyway?

BTW - these are just ponderings - I have no intention of actually doing this!

It's just a what if exercise.
I would think it will retain it's original identity. That's what used to happen with kitcars (it has changed now I think) but if for example a car was built on a VW Beetle chassis even if it looked like some exotic italian beast it was still described as a VW on teh V5.

There are threads all ove the place argueing this, personally I think it's in the 'spirit' of TVR to have engine swaps and mods so I don't think it makes it any less a TVR. Paul Black's awesome Sagaris being a great example, that may no longer have a Speed6 but it's still got the 'essence' of TVR imo.

Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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There are some people in our TVRCC who have their cars insured through kit car specialists, and their premiums are on the floor compared to the main recognised TVR insurers......

may be worth a few calls.... can't remember the brokers/insurers name for the life of me though

sgrimshaw

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Thursday 9th September 2010
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Hoover. said:
There are some people in our TVRCC who have their cars insured through kit car specialists, and their premiums are on the floor compared to the main recognised TVR insurers......

may be worth a few calls.... can't remember the brokers/insurers name for the life of me though
That must be worth following up, I'll pop over to the club and post the question later.