Whats the story on this LS7 Sag?
Whats the story on this LS7 Sag?
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MrChips

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3,299 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Just been browsing through the Sags for sale and came across this monster!!!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2303634.htm


Anyone know the background to this car? Not that I could afford it, just that it looks pretty interesting!

SP6 Animal

6,015 posts

239 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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How much eek

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Someone on here emailed me earlier to see if Topcats had done it and I assure you they had not.

1 Exhaust manifold sticking out
Alternator in the air
Air filter next to rad
Power steering not standard
Loads of extra pulleys
Pipes everywhere

That is not what I call a good job

Edited by blackiepaul on Wednesday 1st December 20:11

RM75

448 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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I'm sure I've seen that engine bay posted on here before (at least a year ago).



It was on a thread where there was a lot of arguing about whether an LS engine would fit a T-car chassis, and that pic was posted by someone who said they had just fitted one. Can't find it now as pistonheads search appears broken (again). Did find this though...

http://tvrblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/tvr-sagaris-wi...

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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RM75 said:
I'm sure I've seen that engine bay posted on here before (at least a year ago).



It was on a thread where there was a lot of arguing about whether an LS engine would fit a T-car chassis, and that pic was posted by someone who said they had just fitted one. Can't find it now as pistonheads search appears broken (again). Did find this though...

http://tvrblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/tvr-sagaris-wi...
You are 100% spot in, we looked at pictures of this before we did our conversion and we used the pictures to work out how we were not going to do it.

justin220

5,743 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Ballpark figure, what would an LS7 conversion cost on a T350 or Sag?

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Now I am looking at this more closely - is this a LS7? The plenum looks right and is not a LS3 but.... where is the dry sump tank? Also what is the plastic looking box on the right of the inlet pipe of the induction butterfly? Mine does not have one of those?

Blues

8,546 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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rofl only £78,850!!
Surely this is a spoof?

stainless_steve

6,052 posts

287 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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blackiepaul said:
Also what is the plastic looking box on the right of the inlet pipe.
Power steering tank

Edited by stainless_steve on Wednesday 1st December 21:58

stainless_steve

6,052 posts

287 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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RM75 said:
Found it - bottom of this page. Seems it's only done 200 miles since August 2009?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Back then I'd hoped it meant that it would also fit in a Tuscan, but sadly the poster never really answered any questions on it.
page 5 says ....Mr Leech & co? fitted the engine

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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stainless_steve said:
blackiepaul said:
Also what is the plastic looking box on the right of the inlet pipe.
Power steering tank

Edited by stainless_steve on Wednesday 1st December 21:58
Thanks Steve - hope you do a better job on your M

Brummmie

5,284 posts

250 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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You can have mine at half the money!! smile

DonkeyApple

69,783 posts

198 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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Blues said:
rofl only £78,850!!
Surely this is a spoof?
How much is a new Sag?

Add to that the cost of an LS conversion?

You get to the £80k mark quite easily.

It's just a question of whether someone will stump up.

Blues

8,546 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st December 2010
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DonkeyApple said:
Blues said:
rofl only £78,850!!
Surely this is a spoof?
How much is a new Sag?

Add to that the cost of an LS conversion?

You get to the £80k mark quite easily.

It's just a question of whether someone will stump up.
How much is a new Sag? Great question. But this one isn't, is it?
The most expensive for sale on here is an RG rebuild for £41k That leaves us £37k+ for an LS conversion. My expression of incredulity is due to the fact that I just can't imagine why anyone would want to do it at this price. By all means, take one with a blown engine (although my understanding is that that SP6 was sorted in time for the Sags)and shove a great V8 in it - but i stll can't work out the maths.
As you rightly say, it is worth what someone will pay for it... but i'll happily show my bum in Burton's window if that sells for anything near that price - lovely as i'm sure it is smile

fredtonge

159 posts

275 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Hi it is simple the car is a 09 plate
the cost of a ls7 replacement is around 21k
and as for the conversion std ,dennis noes
what he is doing
and this car is registerd as a 7.0 ltr from new

450Nick

4,027 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Dennis runs Racesport tvr and built the Racesport sag that ran in britcar (yellow with a union jack on). Also has many years experience in the Tuscan challenge. For sure the conversion will have been done properly.

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I think every one needs to understand that you can do a LS7 conversion for the said 21K on another post on here but it will not be a very good one in my eyes and you will end up spending another 9K over the next year or so to get it right. There is so much more to do than just put the engine in, a good example is drive shafts you can keep the originals but they will not last (ask Brummie and there are no off the shelf ones like there are for a cerb), you can keep the diff with the same final ratio but you may as well just use fourth and fifth.

I wish mine cost 21K, you pay your money and take your chance, you can though of course put a second hand engine and parts in which I was not prepared to do, I was also not prepared for my engine bay to look like the one in the car for sale.

On costs of a Sag, if I had the speed 6 in mine with the mileage of the car I would be looking for very late 40's for it due to its age so yes it would be more expensive than any car for sale at the moment but I actually gave someone a cheque back to them which was written in front of me for mine for late 40's. There are Sags like Graham's which would have a price tag and an agreed valuation of 70K there are buyers for decent Sag's. If I owned the sag for sale I would have taken the engine out and sold it separately and sold the rolling chassis of the car in a separate deal.


DonkeyApple

69,783 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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Blues said:
DonkeyApple said:
Blues said:
rofl only £78,850!!
Surely this is a spoof?
How much is a new Sag?

Add to that the cost of an LS conversion?

You get to the £80k mark quite easily.

It's just a question of whether someone will stump up.
How much is a new Sag? Great question. But this one isn't, is it?
The most expensive for sale on here is an RG rebuild for £41k That leaves us £37k+ for an LS conversion. My expression of incredulity is due to the fact that I just can't imagine why anyone would want to do it at this price. By all means, take one with a blown engine (although my understanding is that that SP6 was sorted in time for the Sags)and shove a great V8 in it - but i stll can't work out the maths.
As you rightly say, it is worth what someone will pay for it... but i'll happily show my bum in Burton's window if that sells for anything near that price - lovely as i'm sure it is smile
biggrin

By my crude maths I would assume that if this is a brand new Sag then a price of £50K plus has to be the focus point.

I also suspect that it would be easy to pay nearly £30k for an engine conversion.

To me the price stacks up well enough, but I would also be standing next to you in Burtons if it sells anytime soon. wink

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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I will also be next to you in the window at Burtons.

Soon thought we are going to see a T350 with a LS7 in it!

thainy77

3,347 posts

227 months

Thursday 2nd December 2010
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blackiepaul said:
I will also be next to you in the window at Burtons.

Soon thought we are going to see a T350 with a LS7 in it!
Who's is that or is it confidential? i really fancy that.