Best handling / Dream TVR
Discussion
guys
after 10 years of thinking about, then being scared by the the banzai sp6, last spring i finally took the plunge and bought myself a tvr, i bought a late series 1 tuscan S with the 4.3 upgrade, i've spent the last 6 months driving it, generally being terrified but loving the noise and the sheer fun of it, but being disappointed with the handling.
it went off just after christmas to the boys and green star sports cars in blackpool, who as well as servicing it for me set it up correctly and wow does it make a difference and i am over the moon. With the sale of my present business i have a chunk of cash and am looking at upgrading the question is to what?
What i'm looking for is the best handling tvr they made, i'm not talking about a track day car, just for day to day fast road use, the obvious options are
1) Sagaris
2) Series 2 tuscan
3) stay with what i have
4) anything else
When i bought the tuscan, the roof off option was a must, but i find i use it less and less, so not being open topped is fine
Whatever i buy i plan to use, rather then store and polish.
Obviously staying with my own car is the cheapest option, the only downside is it remains twitching over the bumps ( although so much better then before it went away) which limits how hard you can push it, I guess ultimately it's the fact that it doesn't inspire confidence on the back roads. The other thing is much as a i love the pod and as much as it is a design classic, fundamentally the reason cars have the standard speedo and tachometer was it is so easy to use
Now the Sagaris is claimed to be the best handling tvr out there, but is that just on a track? I've also read great things about the improved handling of the series 2 tuscans, but would have to find a series 3 with the wavy dashboard
I'm interested people opinions, especially with the handling
pk
after 10 years of thinking about, then being scared by the the banzai sp6, last spring i finally took the plunge and bought myself a tvr, i bought a late series 1 tuscan S with the 4.3 upgrade, i've spent the last 6 months driving it, generally being terrified but loving the noise and the sheer fun of it, but being disappointed with the handling.
it went off just after christmas to the boys and green star sports cars in blackpool, who as well as servicing it for me set it up correctly and wow does it make a difference and i am over the moon. With the sale of my present business i have a chunk of cash and am looking at upgrading the question is to what?
What i'm looking for is the best handling tvr they made, i'm not talking about a track day car, just for day to day fast road use, the obvious options are
1) Sagaris
2) Series 2 tuscan
3) stay with what i have
4) anything else
When i bought the tuscan, the roof off option was a must, but i find i use it less and less, so not being open topped is fine
Whatever i buy i plan to use, rather then store and polish.
Obviously staying with my own car is the cheapest option, the only downside is it remains twitching over the bumps ( although so much better then before it went away) which limits how hard you can push it, I guess ultimately it's the fact that it doesn't inspire confidence on the back roads. The other thing is much as a i love the pod and as much as it is a design classic, fundamentally the reason cars have the standard speedo and tachometer was it is so easy to use
Now the Sagaris is claimed to be the best handling tvr out there, but is that just on a track? I've also read great things about the improved handling of the series 2 tuscans, but would have to find a series 3 with the wavy dashboard
I'm interested people opinions, especially with the handling
pk
I had the pleasure of test driving an Evora last year with a man from Lotus sat next to me giving the appropriate urging on and it has to be said that the handling of that car was light years on from my Tamora - and I thought the Tamora was good. I think it's the B-road bump compliance that does it.
That said, the Lotus does not have shiny aluminium controls and a socking great speed 6 lump sat up front.
When I have the spare cash though, the Tam will be getting a nitron type upgrade
That said, the Lotus does not have shiny aluminium controls and a socking great speed 6 lump sat up front.
When I have the spare cash though, the Tam will be getting a nitron type upgrade
I have driven a Chimera, Cerbera, Sagaris and of course my Tuscan. All wonderful cars, but, I would say if your looking to greatly improve there performance over a typical bumpy Back road, then no TVR IMO, will ever be significantly better than they are now.
Yes, Decent shocks and well set up Geo certainly make a difference, the limiting factor with all of the above, is the lack of suspension travel, which unless a major re design is undertaken will never be cured.
My advice would be accept that on bumpy Roads, your never compete with Evo’s, hot hatches etc, but when the roads smooth out and flow, your eat them for breakfast
Yes, Decent shocks and well set up Geo certainly make a difference, the limiting factor with all of the above, is the lack of suspension travel, which unless a major re design is undertaken will never be cured.
My advice would be accept that on bumpy Roads, your never compete with Evo’s, hot hatches etc, but when the roads smooth out and flow, your eat them for breakfast
Mark A S said:
My advice would be accept that on bumpy Roads, your never compete with Evo’s, hot hatches etc, but when the roads smooth out and flow, your eat them for breakfast
I suspect you'd have to be driving pretty hard in a Chim to keep pace with a well specced Evo on smooth B-roads. It'd be fun trying though. TVR altered spring /damping rates over the years with last iteration being a retro fittable Bilstien based damper spring developed originally for the tuscan II S (model /version believed to be correct) this has hugely stiffer rear springs to what was originally fitted to Harvey Bailey suspended 1st vintage speed 6 tuscans and slightly stiffer fronts.
The spring rates arent in the sag teritory so still keep a good level of GT abililty which is enhanced by the billies having a lot more low speed compliance compared to H-B dampers.
The spring rates arent in the sag teritory so still keep a good level of GT abililty which is enhanced by the billies having a lot more low speed compliance compared to H-B dampers.
Tuscan 2 S is in the same league as a Sag when you uprate the dampers/springs (Nitrons/Eibachs). Maybe a fully sorted Sag is a little bit better but there is not much in it.
Mine is set up a bit softer and it really handles well over rougher B roads; it can easily keep up with my Mini Cooper Works in these conditions. Probably when the roads get very rough the Works handles the bumps better (indeed more suspension travel) but on average rough B roads the Tuscan 2 S is faster.
Mine is set up a bit softer and it really handles well over rougher B roads; it can easily keep up with my Mini Cooper Works in these conditions. Probably when the roads get very rough the Works handles the bumps better (indeed more suspension travel) but on average rough B roads the Tuscan 2 S is faster.
Edited by GT TVR on Wednesday 19th January 15:25
Gazzab said:
Mark_S_24 said:
wasn't there a thread about getting some spacers on the front and it transformed the handelling?
has the Op done this?
Mark
Is there any proper evidence that this works or is it seat of the pants feedback / mass hysteria?has the Op done this?
Mark
Mark_S_24 said:
Gazzab said:
Mark_S_24 said:
wasn't there a thread about getting some spacers on the front and it transformed the handelling?
has the Op done this?
Mark
Is there any proper evidence that this works or is it seat of the pants feedback / mass hysteria?has the Op done this?
Mark
Gazzab said:
Mark_S_24 said:
Gazzab said:
Mark_S_24 said:
wasn't there a thread about getting some spacers on the front and it transformed the handelling?
has the Op done this?
Mark
Is there any proper evidence that this works or is it seat of the pants feedback / mass hysteria?has the Op done this?
Mark
dvs_dave said:
Gazzab said:
Mark_S_24 said:
Gazzab said:
Mark_S_24 said:
wasn't there a thread about getting some spacers on the front and it transformed the handelling?
has the Op done this?
Mark
Is there any proper evidence that this works or is it seat of the pants feedback / mass hysteria?has the Op done this?
Mark
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