French speedtraps, be warned !
French speedtraps, be warned !
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tvr4ever

Original Poster:

644 posts

289 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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A word of warning to all of you going to France this summer. I live in The Netherlands, as many of you know, probably the most speedcam infested country in the world. And now the French are going to be very harsh to speeding motorist also. 1 kmh over the speedlimit will cost you 135 euro and 50 kmh or more will cost 1500 euro and a three year ban of French roads. They are also implementing more and more speedcams on their roads, here's a map from their website: http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/radars_fixes.htm

At the moment they have about 100 speedcams of wich 30 are mobile speedcams. Their aim is to increase that number to about a 1000 in 2005. All of the info is from their own website.

Fred

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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That map of speed cameras makes the UKs map look like a joke.
If that was a map of a County in the UK it would be considered undercamera'd!

Thanks for the link though.

GCerbera

5,161 posts

280 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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tvr4ever said:
1 kmh over the speedlimit will cost you 135 euro Fred

Thanks for that info Fred.

1kph? I'm sorry, but are the French police really THAT crazy?


I am sure many Speedos are out by a couple of mph / kmh an hour, so should they
at least allow the 10% rule?

That 1 kmh will kill the UK tourist trade in France.
If the French only want my money by impossing ridiculous rules, I'll spend
my vacation money elsewhere on fun not fines.

This could well be my last Le Mans.

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

290 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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Didn't see one policeman on the Le Mans test run a few weeks back and no speed cameras. I'm sure that will all change on the Le Mans weekend.

I for one will be keeping to the limit...I'm sure there will be a few nutters when we go who want to make a fool of themselves.

Alan.

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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GCerbera said:

This could well be my last Le Mans.


IF this is all as bad as is suggested then it could well kill the Le Mans weekend for loads.
However, something along these line comes up every year just before Le Mans so be prepared for it to all be the norm (with increased penalties IF you are caught).

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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we saw loads of brits pulled last year... and a gendarm with a plastic bag full of uk licences, and even one chap being sat down on the curb in handcuffs !!!


So this year we're going with no speed limits.... by plane

scamera that you bstard...

At least i got done (2000) by a proper copper on a bike

shnozz

30,622 posts

300 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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for s sake

getting really pissed off with all this now.

seems le mans is a waste of time. half the fun is the drive down there. I dont expect to drive like a lunatic but a rapid drive on lovely french roads makes the le mans weekend. If that dissapears then I think I'll just not bother with le mans and start attending another motorsport event in a european country that are not going to be so anal about speeding.

maybe a weekend taking the ferry to bilbao or santander and drive across spain to barcelona for the spanish GP.

very very pissed off Shnozz

burriana500

16,556 posts

283 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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shnozz said:

maybe a weekend taking the ferry to bilbao or santander and drive across spain to barcelona for the spanish GP.


Just let me know if we decide to make this an event

shnozz

30,622 posts

300 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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burriana500 said:

shnozz said:

maybe a weekend taking the ferry to bilbao or santander and drive across spain to barcelona for the spanish GP.



Just let me know if we decide to make this an event


your e-mail formed the basis of my decison to head down to spain after this years le mans and the attitude towards speeding is a lot more relaxed. Now that the french are tightening up to what amounts to extortion I shall be thankful when I hit spanish soil.

well up for a similar trek next year to spain as an alternative to le mans if the speeding myths turn out to be correct.

tvr4ever

Original Poster:

644 posts

289 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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I'm sorry, it was not my intention to ruin your trip to le Mans, only to warn you of new activity of the French police. I have seen TVR's with English plates overtake me in France with speeds well over 120 mph and even with a good radardetector (witch I have, ilegal in France to..) you can never stop on time. For that you need the new SLR as you probably saw on Top Gear last night. Boy I can only dream of brakes like that.
In my first post you can find the French website with all the details. Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge of French can translate.

Fred

shnozz

30,622 posts

300 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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sorry Fred - didnt mean to lay any blame at your door mate and thanks muchly for the heads up on it.

Just seems to be some truth in the speed scaremongering for this years le mans and some evidence that policing measures are in place. Just dissapoints me a little but its by far better than people such as yourself forewarn us so we either stick to the limits or are aware of the penalties if we break them.

once again - thanks for the info

verysideways

10,268 posts

301 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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try http://babelfish.altavista.com

this provides a facility to plug in a URL and it translates the whole website for you!

schnozz, i'm with you, Le Mans for me is the drive there and back, driving round on thursday and friday seeing the local countryside and roads, and a weekend of awesome cars (on and off track) making amazing noises.

the strip outside Maison Blanche is always fun too!

but if the french are going mad with fines then i may well join your spanish GP convoy.

VS

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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shnozz said:
for s sake

getting really pissed off with all this now.

seems le mans is a waste of time. half the fun is the drive down there. I dont expect to drive like a lunatic but a rapid drive on lovely french roads makes the le mans weekend. If that dissapears then I think I'll just not bother with le mans and start attending another motorsport event in a european country that are not going to be so anal about speeding.

maybe a weekend taking the ferry to bilbao or santander and drive across spain to barcelona for the spanish GP.

very very pissed off Shnozz


YEAH!
Lets see how this year goes and if it is as bad as the rumors say we'll change the annual pilgrimmige to another country.
With the LE MANS SERIES now doing 4 races a year there is a fair bit of variety too. Silverstone in August too. (I started athread on this in the LM forum some time ago).

Verysideways - If all else fails we'll always have that strip at Masion blanche on Mad Friday, although le plod have been clamping down on that the past few years too.

shnozz

30,622 posts

300 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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DustyC said:

Verysideways - If all else fails we'll always have that strip at Masion blanche on Mad Friday, although le plod have been clamping down on that the past few years too.


the only le plod I saw on the strip on Friday last year was PC le Mungo with a massive supersoaker shouting at me and Psychobert as we were flagged down by the english nutter with the union jack when we turned up!

gerjo

1,627 posts

311 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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Fortunately no camera's yet in my area (Dordogne), only an occasional laser gun.

One of the advantages of moving to France was the more relaxed attitude of the local police to speeding, which was getting ridiculous in Holland (felt like the old Sovjet Union).
Hopefully it will stay that way for some time, but indeed, I'm hearing the same from the local grapefine. Just hope they weren't out with their radar guns yesterday as the Griff was going like hell, I just couldn't help myself.

SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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I know I'm stating the obvious, but there will be a lot of bias towards UK number plates, and part of my uncles life is LeMans, he's told me there will be a number of unmarked french police cars patrolling certain routes which are popular with UK LeMans fans this year... they've 100% got the hump against us... b%$*%£@s!!! (do you think they're trying to make a point or something????)

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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burriana500 said:

shnozz said:

maybe a weekend taking the ferry to bilbao or santander and drive across spain to barcelona for the spanish GP.



Just let me know if we decide to make this an event


Superb!

DustyC

12,822 posts

283 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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The LM endurance racing dates are

9 May, Monza (not 4 April)
11 July, Nürburgring
15 August, Silverstone
12 September Spa.

If this year goes wrong perhaps a drive down through Germany to Italy in July?

aaandy

764 posts

281 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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Just having a look at that french site. I think that this map shows what areas have mobile cameras available to them (and looks like they have most routes to Le Mans covered).

http://www1.securiteroutiere.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/radars_mobiles.htm

chrisbr68

5,500 posts

277 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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Is it me or do neither of those links work?

Anyway, last year, we had no problems with the police, and they seemed to be really getting into the spirit of things. Saw a few cars pulled over on the way, but I was not surprised, as they were not just speeding, but being pretty stupid.