Would/could you buy a new TVR?
Poll: Would/could you buy a new TVR?
Total Members Polled: 120
Discussion
Just wondered - taking into account the current financial climate and how it's likely to be for the next few years, what would be your next TVR purchase, assuming there is a new factory?
I've loved all things TVR for a while now and was distraught when the company closed the doors a few years ago. I've joined the hand-wringing masses and wished for the day that they return to Blackpool with many of the old staff and ethos we love.
But. If I'm honest, I'm in no position to buy a new TVR and unlikely to ever be so. £10-£20k is about my limit for a summer/weekend toy. Let's be honest, if they were suitable for the daily commute they'd quickly lose their charm for most of us.
So, what would you do?
I've loved all things TVR for a while now and was distraught when the company closed the doors a few years ago. I've joined the hand-wringing masses and wished for the day that they return to Blackpool with many of the old staff and ethos we love.
But. If I'm honest, I'm in no position to buy a new TVR and unlikely to ever be so. £10-£20k is about my limit for a summer/weekend toy. Let's be honest, if they were suitable for the daily commute they'd quickly lose their charm for most of us.
So, what would you do?
I also can't really justify buying this type of toy new. So voted second hand £20-30k. I will soon have 2 kids to keep at Uni so toys are a luxury.
When I am older I may well buy a new sports car but it would be for everyday use and possibly an only car so TVR may not fit the bill unless there is a very good dealer network like Porsche
When I am older I may well buy a new sports car but it would be for everyday use and possibly an only car so TVR may not fit the bill unless there is a very good dealer network like Porsche
I've got one and I got it pretty much how I want it (mainly by spending the initial purchase price again, and then some). Therefore there is little incentive to replace it (with a later one) and start all over again.
Then again, if there ever was a reason for me to save up and buy a brand new car 'for life' it would be a new TVR. It would have to be shockingly awesome, though, and aftersales support should be so good that the car would be turned into what I want it to be, pretty quickly and painlessly after taking delivery of it.
Then again, if there ever was a reason for me to save up and buy a brand new car 'for life' it would be a new TVR. It would have to be shockingly awesome, though, and aftersales support should be so good that the car would be turned into what I want it to be, pretty quickly and painlessly after taking delivery of it.
Interesting question! I have only just joined the fold!
I collected my Griff 500 about 3 weeks ago, so realistically the 20-30k bracket second hand.
However, if a brand new Griff was possible, maybe I'd have saved and saved to go down the "new" route. Although, it's taken me long enough to pull the trigger and finally get my first TVR and I am very pleased with what I have!
I collected my Griff 500 about 3 weeks ago, so realistically the 20-30k bracket second hand.
However, if a brand new Griff was possible, maybe I'd have saved and saved to go down the "new" route. Although, it's taken me long enough to pull the trigger and finally get my first TVR and I am very pleased with what I have!
no I wouldn`t buy a new tvr if they re-opened a factory.
the models made in Blackpool will be remembered by some as the originals, and as such I`d expect all models to gradually increase in value over time, there were`nt many built in the first place, except the chim golf buggies, so as classics cars go, which I beleive they ALL are they are a reasonable investment for the next 20 or so years.
the models made in Blackpool will be remembered by some as the originals, and as such I`d expect all models to gradually increase in value over time, there were`nt many built in the first place, except the chim golf buggies
, so as classics cars go, which I beleive they ALL are they are a reasonable investment for the next 20 or so years.I reckon I'm about 20 years off having the spare cash for a 'toy' at the 'new' price levels mentioned above.
I'm probably not long off (a couple of years) having £20k-£30k for a second hand one though. Got to keep my fingers crossed that those Sag prices don't hold ;-)
ETA: I'll have yours when you get bored Clive - looking forward to seeing it in the flesh on Sunday!
I'm probably not long off (a couple of years) having £20k-£30k for a second hand one though. Got to keep my fingers crossed that those Sag prices don't hold ;-)
ETA: I'll have yours when you get bored Clive - looking forward to seeing it in the flesh on Sunday!
This is very tricky. TVR really needed to add 10-20k to the purchase price and have an extra 5k on good quality parts (electrical and trim especially) and another 5k on testing to stop premature failures. Even at 75k for a Tuscan S or Sagaris it would still be blistering performance for the price point.
The problem is 75k for a new TVR puts you in touch of some very serious secondhand metal (F430's, V8 Vantages, Gallardos) so for me personally a new 75k tuscan or a 2nd hand Ferrari / Lamborghini and the TVR loses out.
I love my Tuscan and I am very glad that I have bought one of the last where 99% of the problems have been eradicated, but at the price they should have been to ensure better reliability then a second hand 150k car seems better value to me. However, at sub 30k for secondhand TVR's there is NOTHING that comes close in terms of speed and sense of occasion.
The problem is 75k for a new TVR puts you in touch of some very serious secondhand metal (F430's, V8 Vantages, Gallardos) so for me personally a new 75k tuscan or a 2nd hand Ferrari / Lamborghini and the TVR loses out.
I love my Tuscan and I am very glad that I have bought one of the last where 99% of the problems have been eradicated, but at the price they should have been to ensure better reliability then a second hand 150k car seems better value to me. However, at sub 30k for secondhand TVR's there is NOTHING that comes close in terms of speed and sense of occasion.
If you bear in mind Str8six or similar built and sold a new Sagaris for around £60/70k fairly recently then the customers are out there.
I think the customers that would buy a new £80k car are different to those who would buy a 2nd hand £130k car for £80k.
Pretty sure I read somewhere that when TVR were thinking of the Typhon being £80-90k their German dealers said they could sell more of them than any other model as they had customers asking for a more expenisve version.
If the level of finish and build quality is better than of old with great power and handling then they will sell. Many people are looking for somwething different to a Porsche. In a few years time I may be in a position to look at a £80-120k car an dit owuld be very high up on my list.
I think the customers that would buy a new £80k car are different to those who would buy a 2nd hand £130k car for £80k.
Pretty sure I read somewhere that when TVR were thinking of the Typhon being £80-90k their German dealers said they could sell more of them than any other model as they had customers asking for a more expenisve version.
If the level of finish and build quality is better than of old with great power and handling then they will sell. Many people are looking for somwething different to a Porsche. In a few years time I may be in a position to look at a £80-120k car an dit owuld be very high up on my list.
I wouldn't buy any car new, let alone a TVR. I could probably afford to spend a bit more on the weekend toy but I wouldn't feel able to justify £30K+ on one. But then new cars aren't a big draw for me.
I'm happy with mine, bought it and spent nearly as much as I paid for it getting it how I wanted, plus I see it as a bit of a work in progress so I don't really have any incentive to upgrade for a newer model.
I'm happy with mine, bought it and spent nearly as much as I paid for it getting it how I wanted, plus I see it as a bit of a work in progress so I don't really have any incentive to upgrade for a newer model.
I think it would be difficult for any manufacturer to produce a 'new'TVR that would outperform the current crop of excellent upgraded cars that are out there,be they Dom's 4.3/4.5 or Racing Green's FFF or indeed the LS versions.
If such a beast was produced ,it would probably have a hefty price hike over what we have previuosly paid ,putting it out of my league.
If such a beast was produced ,it would probably have a hefty price hike over what we have previuosly paid ,putting it out of my league.
A well built standard 4 ltr s6 is just about as powerful as a 4.3 as far as I can see (and certainly from the indepedent tests eg at griff growl and others). I think anything around 350 to 380 at the fly is the best you'll see.
You can buy a brand new Sag for not much more than a 2nd hand one, I saw it in build today. Just choose your colour and trim.
You can buy a brand new Sag for not much more than a 2nd hand one, I saw it in build today. Just choose your colour and trim.
How did the RR day go today, any 4.3/4.5 S6 results?
the reason I ask is that I've been in a 4.3 Sagaris around Oulton and was very impressed with it's engine even though it was driven not that hard, Also Danny Winstanley was very impressed with his 4.5SS when i asked him about it.
the reason I ask is that I've been in a 4.3 Sagaris around Oulton and was very impressed with it's engine even though it was driven not that hard, Also Danny Winstanley was very impressed with his 4.5SS when i asked him about it.
Edited by SAGRIFF on Saturday 7th May 20:09
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