Fitting Pirelli P Zero AO Audi Tyres to Jaguar XF
Discussion
MJK 24 said:
f1nn said:
No, under no circumstances fit tyres with meant for an Audi to a Jaguar...they are meant for front or all wheel drive, so clearly not suitable for rear wheel drive.
OP hasn’t stated if his XF is RWD or 4WD.KungFuPanda said:
MJK 24 said:
f1nn said:
No, under no circumstances fit tyres with meant for an Audi to a Jaguar...they are meant for front or all wheel drive, so clearly not suitable for rear wheel drive.
OP hasn’t stated if his XF is RWD or 4WD.Two points.
1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
2. An Audi developed tyre will have different performance targets compared to that of the Jag tyre, not to mention the difference in the vehicles. At best, you’ll notice no difference. At worst, the handling/balance can be badly compromised.
1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
2. An Audi developed tyre will have different performance targets compared to that of the Jag tyre, not to mention the difference in the vehicles. At best, you’ll notice no difference. At worst, the handling/balance can be badly compromised.
Frances The Mute said:
Two points.
1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
2. An Audi developed tyre will have different performance targets compared to that of the Jag tyre, not to mention the difference in the vehicles. At best, you’ll notice no difference. At worst, the handling/balance can be badly compromised.
I don't believe there is any difference between the same tyre brand/model just because they have a manufacturer original stamp on them. But you're right about the speed and load rating, you should always use the same or better than original fitment.1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
2. An Audi developed tyre will have different performance targets compared to that of the Jag tyre, not to mention the difference in the vehicles. At best, you’ll notice no difference. At worst, the handling/balance can be badly compromised.
spookly said:
Frances The Mute said:
Two points.
1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
2. An Audi developed tyre will have different performance targets compared to that of the Jag tyre, not to mention the difference in the vehicles. At best, you’ll notice no difference. At worst, the handling/balance can be badly compromised.
I don't believe there is any difference between the same tyre brand/model just because they have a manufacturer original stamp on them. But you're right about the speed and load rating, you should always use the same or better than original fitment.1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
2. An Audi developed tyre will have different performance targets compared to that of the Jag tyre, not to mention the difference in the vehicles. At best, you’ll notice no difference. At worst, the handling/balance can be badly compromised.
Frances The Mute said:
Two points.
1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
Would that be the ones that perform the test incorrectly? Unless it's a minibus or goods vehicle.1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
Kawasicki said:
The differences exist. There are teams of people at every large tyre and car manufacturer working on exactly this.
Despite the obvious issue of the different ratings on the tyres the OP mentions, do you have links to explain,or know answers how a tyre on a Jag is different to any other car?I know many many years ago Jaguar had 1st call on all Avon stuff that was fitted to XJ models. They would reject any that needed over a certain weight of balancing from the factory & they were then sold as replacements on the High Street..
Avon were also the only company that made & supplied tyres for the DS 420 Daimler Limousine & Rolls Royce & Bentley models new from the factory. They also originally designed the tyres for Bentley’s Turbo R models.
Nowadays manufacturers seem to chop & change supplier quite frequently, Mercedes changed from a long standing deal with Continental to Hankook for mid range E class models, VAG apparently changed to a mix of manufacturers, depending which brand you bought & im not so sure that Michelin no longer supply exclusively to all French manufacturers as was the case years ago.
Frances The Mute said:
1. You should always maintain/improve upon the load speed indices of your original tyre. Not the case here which can be an issue with insurance companies and certain MOT testers.
I've got a VW T6 with an expensive set of ABT 19" load rated alloys, but you cannot get the correctly load rated tyres for these wheels, 102 is the highest available and this van needs a 103 (855kg per front corner and 860kg per rear corner).The wheel importers are telling me there's no issue with load ratings, they've sold 100's of wheels without issue, so I'm being over cautious...
Scary when 'professional' people think that load ratings don't matter.
Sorry for off topic rant.
hal3210 said:
I have a Jaguar XF with Pirelli P Zero 100Y tyres. I've managed to find some Pirelli P Zero 96 Y AO tyres at a great price. Although these are clearly meant for Audis, will fitting one of these 96 Y AO tyres be ok on the XF with 3 of the remaining normal 100 Y P Zeros?
Many thanks
Your car will explode, several baby polar bears will die a horrible death and at least one nasally-voiced Driving God will pour scorn on you and future generations for even daring to fit tyres that fit your car to your car.Many thanks
I'm sure the lateral grip, cornering balance and ultimate stopping distance that come from fitting a tyre designed for a saloon car, on a saloon car, will be really noticable as you exit a motorway slip road and clip the apex into a line of traffic at no-more than 15 miles/hour, before clicking your gearshift paddle to ensure you're in first to dump the accelerator and shave 1/10th of a second off your commute home.
As long as the rolling radius is within 2.5%, the load index is the same or higher and the speed rating is the same or higher, you can fit any tyre you like. The "AO" means Audi have tested the tyre and approved it - it doesn't mean that Audi worked with the manufacturer - it just means the tyre manufacturer has done a deal to supply Audi with tyres.
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