How do tyre / wheel size effect handling
How do tyre / wheel size effect handling
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mawallace

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184 posts

95 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Could someone tell me how the tyre / wheel size effect handling.

As an example, on the VW Golf you have a choice of 15 inch, 16 inch or 17 inch depending on the model you go for,

The standard tyres come with 225 / 45 R17 94 W .

How would choosing a smaller / larger tyre effect handling such as corning. and what about the tyre size, going for a different profile.

PositronicRay

28,503 posts

205 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Handling will be better on a smaller wheel/tyre combo, you may get better grip with a larger tyre.

Kawasicki

14,091 posts

257 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Smaller wheel, means taller sidewall..leads to less vertical stiffness, so probably more comfort, also the effective centre of the contact patch is further back, so you get more feedback due to changing steering wheel torque as the tyre loads up. Downside of taller, narrower tyres are less lateral grip, and longer time required to react to inputs. So wider, lower profile tyres on bigger wheels are potentially better if you need the car to follow driver inputs more faithfully, but they are sharper over impacts and probably more prone to impact damage.

stevieturbo

17,927 posts

269 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Depends what you're using it for, driving style, and what your perception of "handling" means...although of more importance would be tyre brand/quality with respect to what you're using it for.

GreenV8S

30,997 posts

306 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Tyre width makes the biggest difference, because it changes the shape of the contact patch. Changing the sidewall height while keeping the diameter and width the same will change the ride quality (and looks) more than the handling.

stevesingo

5,010 posts

244 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Kawasicki said:
Smaller wheel, means taller sidewall..leads to less vertical stiffness, so probably more comfort, also the effective centre of the contact patch is further back, so you get more feedback due to changing steering wheel torque as the tyre loads up. Downside of taller, narrower tyres are less lateral grip, and longer time required to react to inputs. So wider, lower profile tyres on bigger wheels are potentially better if you need the car to follow driver inputs more faithfully, but they are sharper over impacts and probably more prone to impact damage.
Can you please explain why this is? I'm intrigued to know.

GreenV8S

30,997 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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stevesingo said:
Can you please explain why this is? I'm intrigued to know.
A narrower tyre causes that effect due to the longer contact patch. There is more variation in lateral deflection from the front to the back of the contact patch, which increases the self-aligning torque of the wheel.

The mechanism that reduces that on wider tyres relies on the tread being able to deflect sideways ahead of the contact patch so I suppose it could be affected by sidewall height too.

Mignon

1,018 posts

111 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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mawallace said:
Could someone tell me how the tyre / wheel size effect handling.
Not enough for you to be able to tell much difference one way or the other.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

213 months