Panther Kallista wire wheel conversion
Panther Kallista wire wheel conversion
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bewley court

Original Poster:

6 posts

76 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Hi, My Panther Kallista is fitted with the front suspension from a Cortina Mk4/5. I would like to fit wire wheels using the bolt on spline adaptor kits as sold on E bay which have the regular Ford wheel nut PCD.

Is it OK to use either MG B 14" wires or perhaps the MG Midget 13" wires and still keep within the correct off set and back spacing. I know you can buy bolt on wires from MWS but at a price!

The MG wires seem a more economic option and have the correct splines and spinner threads.

Any advice or comments would be appreciated.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

179 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Wheels for an MG won't fit onto Ford hubs ,different PCD.

I think that's what you're asking.

RichB

54,181 posts

300 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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If he's using a spline adaptor then the MG wires won't have a PCD, think about it wink

E-bmw

11,121 posts

168 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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RichB said:
If he's using a spline adaptor then the MG wires won't have a PCD, think about it wink
Clearly he wasn't listening. Schoolboy error. wink

bewley court

Original Poster:

6 posts

76 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Hi, I think you have misunderstood me. I'm trying to look at the suitability of the MG wheels.

The bolt on splined adaptors have the correct Ford 108mm PCD so will fit OK. These adaptors give you the correct splines to accept conventional MG spined type wire wheels and spinners.

My query is relating to the wheel off set/back spacing effect on the front steering/suspension.




PositronicRay

28,080 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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What offset are you running now, what offset is your intended wheel and how much to the adaptors add?

bewley court

Original Poster:

6 posts

76 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Hi, I was hoping that some one out there had already done this exercise before and may know the answer. I haven't yet purchased any adaptors or wheels so can't actually carry out the calculations.

RichB

54,181 posts

300 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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A Panther Kallista is a pretty rear and specialist car so unlikely there'll be many people who know the immediate answers but as a start you can easily measure the offset of your existing wheels (look on the internet of your not sure how but your only need a straightedge and a ruler). Then I am sure you can ask the manufacturer of the adaptor how much that will add to the offset of the wheels. Finally, again, on the internet there must be an MG forum where someone will know the offset of a standard MGB 14" wire wheel. Then with a bit of paper you can work out if it will work for you.

phillpot

17,377 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Is there not a Panther owners/enthusiasts club?

Someone there would surely have fitted wire wheels and know all you need to know?

bewley court

Original Poster:

6 posts

76 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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There is a Panther owners club but I don't belong to it at the moment. Guess this could be a solution.

Blue 30

519 posts

133 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Please dont think I'm being rude... But as others have said, just join The Panther Car Club. As 99.9% of whatever you are/might think of doing to your Kallista, has already been done, that includes wire wheels. The club has an archive for members to access tech info. The PCC is a worldwide friendship based club, with lots of area groups in the UK and beyond.
You could even get lucky by placing an Ad for wires, someone may have a used set !
Beware cheap hub adaptors, they can be no better than a pipe flange with the spline welded to it !!!! ReputableReputable wheel suppliers make the adaptors from solid. Your life, and others, are worth it.
I have done the knock on mod, and used bolt on wires on Kallista.

bewley court

Original Poster:

6 posts

76 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Thanks for your advice perhaps I might join the PCC.

I did visit the Panther stand at the Bristol Classic Car Show a couple of years ago but was put off by some of the members I met who manned the stand. They appeared not very friendly, a bit boastful about their own cars and not to keen to give any helpful advice.

Perhaps I am a bit judgemental but I have helped my friend to restore a Cortina Mk2 and their club members were extremely helpful and more friendly bunch plus helped source parts needed to complete the restoration.

I appreciate your advice on bolt on adaptors. Out of interest which splined wheels did you use and where did you source your adaptors?

I did price up a set of 5 bolt-on wire wheels from MWS but the price was "eye watering". My thoughts were to go with bolt on adaptors and a deal on MG Midget (13") or MG B (14") tyres/wheels.

I will investigate PCC membership and sign up for a year to see if it is my scene.

Thanks again for your advice


phillpot

17,377 posts

199 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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From my (limited) experience the kind of guys, and gals, that man show stands can be a little "over enthusiastic", join the Club and get in touch with real world owners wink


Better still, sell the Morgan wannabe and get a TVR smile

Blue 30

519 posts

133 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Giving you wrong details is worse than giving you no details, and its been took long for me to recall those. The club has the archive. Peter Rees Wheels was who I co managed the deal with. Although it sounds like you probably won't like his prices either. Good luck.

bewley court

Original Poster:

6 posts

76 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Thanks for the replies and advice.

I did drive a Morgan before I bought the Panther and would have loved to buy one but they can be a bit expensive even for an old one.

Yes perhaps the Panther is a "poor mans" Morgan but then for the relatively small outlay, the sheer fun the car has given me I feel that I couldn't have bought half of a tatty Morgan for the same money.

I like the earlier TVR's (Tuscan/Vixen) but they are now rare and expensive.