Steering shake/shimmy after 60mph
Discussion
So, when I get to 55/60+ I get a steering wheel vibration wobble, I can slightly feel it while I hold onto/steer the car, but when I let go it shakes more.
So far, I have
- Swapped the fronts/backs (still have wobble)
- Originally had the fronts balanced (but they are now at back, is it worth having the "new" fronts balanced also)
- New rotors and pads (this stopped the braking vibration)
So, I am thinking now it's possibly alignment, the car does feel slightly twitchy, so it's booked in a 4 wheel laser hunter next week.
It's MOT history does suggest excessive tyre wear outside edge, which may mean the prev owner having not had the alignment done maybe.
Would alignment cause a shimmy/steering shake after 60mph?
Also, the shake stops completely sometimes pending on what motorway surface I am on?
Front tyres are X2 Michelin Pilots (4 years old) with some shoulder cracks, originally in the rear of the car when purchased.
Car is a 2013 V60
So far, I have
- Swapped the fronts/backs (still have wobble)
- Originally had the fronts balanced (but they are now at back, is it worth having the "new" fronts balanced also)
- New rotors and pads (this stopped the braking vibration)
So, I am thinking now it's possibly alignment, the car does feel slightly twitchy, so it's booked in a 4 wheel laser hunter next week.
It's MOT history does suggest excessive tyre wear outside edge, which may mean the prev owner having not had the alignment done maybe.
Would alignment cause a shimmy/steering shake after 60mph?
Also, the shake stops completely sometimes pending on what motorway surface I am on?
Front tyres are X2 Michelin Pilots (4 years old) with some shoulder cracks, originally in the rear of the car when purchased.
Car is a 2013 V60
Edited by DailyHack on Saturday 28th August 07:39
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Can you speed up and drive through the vibration or does it get worse the faster you go?
Yes, once I speed up the shaking speeds up, then sort off disappears but is still there at a higher frequency if that makes sense.I think I may get the wheels (that are currently on the front) balanced this morning, see if this sorts it...st least then all 4 would of been done.
Nothing at all, perfectly smooth <55mph
All 4 buckled? Once moved rears to front, vibration is still there in the steering wheel?As you can drive through it then it does sound like balancing.
If you are feeling it through the steering then concentrate on the front wheels. You would feel it through your seat if it was the rear wheels.
Make sure that the place you take the car for balancing does the inner and outer edges of the wheel (dynamic balancing rather than static balancing). Many places will just do static unless you ask them. The cost should be the same but it can make a difference.
If you are feeling it through the steering then concentrate on the front wheels. You would feel it through your seat if it was the rear wheels.
Make sure that the place you take the car for balancing does the inner and outer edges of the wheel (dynamic balancing rather than static balancing). Many places will just do static unless you ask them. The cost should be the same but it can make a difference.
I've got the same thing as it happens.
Just had the steering arm/drop links and track rod ends replaced both sides to cure a clunking over bumps. Didn't notice the vibration until I started a new commute this week, that includes a 60mph average speed zone on the M4.
I'm going to get the alignment done and see if it cures it.
Just had the steering arm/drop links and track rod ends replaced both sides to cure a clunking over bumps. Didn't notice the vibration until I started a new commute this week, that includes a 60mph average speed zone on the M4.
I'm going to get the alignment done and see if it cures it.
Zarco said:
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I'm going to get the alignment done and see if it cures it.
Yeah I am thinking a proper 4 wheel alignment cures alot of shimmies and shakes, especially if you are over-steering in a straight line (tyres pointing in/out etc) makes sense in my head anyway.I'm going to get the alignment done and see if it cures it.
Edited by DailyHack on Saturday 28th August 08:11
Can be many many things.
Worn tyres... When you swapped them did you notice a steering wheel vs seat of pants change in Viv ration?
Buckled wheels. Ditto.
Worn steering components.
Worn suspension bushes
Worn drive shaft spines - although that's more a fwd issue for vibes.
If it's not wheel and tyre... Best thing is get it on a lift and go through every steering and suspension component and visually check for wear - not just play.
Worn tyres... When you swapped them did you notice a steering wheel vs seat of pants change in Viv ration?
Buckled wheels. Ditto.
Worn steering components.
Worn suspension bushes
Worn drive shaft spines - although that's more a fwd issue for vibes.
If it's not wheel and tyre... Best thing is get it on a lift and go through every steering and suspension component and visually check for wear - not just play.
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
I would concentrate on the quality/condition of the tyres and the state of the wheels to find the fault.
What vehicle is it?
I did state the vehicle originally - Volvo V60 D3What vehicle is it?
Yeah, I am getting the fronts look at this morning, then will move onto alignment, then worn issues suspension etc
I similar on a new to me car.
I went though everything tyre pressure, balancing, alignment, new wheels and tyres, brake discs and pads shocks, top mounts, control arms, arb bushes, steering damper, steering idler, one at a time.
Not just one thing, albeit each change improved the problem to a degree. It's now acceptable.
Start with the easy things 1st and work your way through.
I went though everything tyre pressure, balancing, alignment, new wheels and tyres, brake discs and pads shocks, top mounts, control arms, arb bushes, steering damper, steering idler, one at a time.
Not just one thing, albeit each change improved the problem to a degree. It's now acceptable.
Start with the easy things 1st and work your way through.
Yeah it's really odd, I have just tried to go out to a garage to get them to do the balancing on the fronts, cant fit me in till next week (I should of known really)
Anyway, I went out on the motorway, it changes due to different road surfaces aswell, i.e lane 1, 2 sometimes it's not there at all, change lanes (with noticable shade/appearance in tarmac colour) it's stops completely...very bizarre.
It does seem to be worse the faster I go, but its not violently shaking, just a nuisance, if I hold the steering wheel it's better, but still vibrates my hands.
So, I'm going to wait for the alignment (that's booked) I know this is out, if I straighten the steering wheel to the middle, it drifts to the right, I've known from past cars this means its not quite right.
I also had a very similar issue on my old Saab 9-3, new tyres fixed that, and alignment helped also...hmmm I hate cars sometimes!
Anyway, I went out on the motorway, it changes due to different road surfaces aswell, i.e lane 1, 2 sometimes it's not there at all, change lanes (with noticable shade/appearance in tarmac colour) it's stops completely...very bizarre.
It does seem to be worse the faster I go, but its not violently shaking, just a nuisance, if I hold the steering wheel it's better, but still vibrates my hands.
So, I'm going to wait for the alignment (that's booked) I know this is out, if I straighten the steering wheel to the middle, it drifts to the right, I've known from past cars this means its not quite right.
I also had a very similar issue on my old Saab 9-3, new tyres fixed that, and alignment helped also...hmmm I hate cars sometimes!
DailyHack said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Your wheels are probably buckled. HTH.
All 4 buckled?Buckling is something tyre places don't really look for & can be balanced out, but they will still be buckled.
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